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Contents 1 Dead links 2 Welcome to Wikipedia! 3 WP:MIND 4 WP:MIND 22:24, 15 September 2005 (UTC) 5 WP:MIND 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC) 6 WP:MIND 06:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC) 7 Re: Vandalism by user 64.18.36.7 8 re: Society Portal - Categories Section 9 Re:People's Progressive Party (Malaysia) 10 Re:Nowina Coat of Arms 11 WP:MIND 12 Re: Tapasya 13 Graeme Lawton Afd 14 Broken links 15 Byron redirect 16 Re: WP:MIND 17 Wikipedia:Wikifun 18 Thanks 19 Odd paragraph added by User 193.62.205.209 20 Wikifun round 12 21 St John Bosco 22 Wikiprojects Saints 23 WooPS 24 Philip Neri 25 Preventing an edit war on the saints 26 Saint Rita of Cascia 27 Proposed event policy for Wikicalendar 28 Islamikaze up for deletion 29 Great Priestly quote 30 Thanks . . . 31 See also - Gamesmanship 32 Unsporting 33 Ryan Avery 34 Why church dedications are important

[edit] Dead links

Have you really gone through the first 250 pages of the Ps in the 404 dead links? That is impressive! I wanted to know what your thoughts are about linking to the internet archive. Perhaps with a little help we can get through the Ps which would at least be newsworthy Juliusross 11:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

It would be impressive wouldn't it. Actually someone else did up to around number 160 so I can't take so much credit. As for your question about the internet archive, I have no thoughts about this as I was unaware of its existence. It should be really useful for some of the dead links though so I'll have a look. It's nice to know someone else is out there willing to help out with this mammoth task. --Spondoolicks 11:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I am not making promises. Also I wonder if the number of dead links is not growing beneath this list. Juliusross 00:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

This list was created nearly two months ago and there are sure to be more dead links by now but that doesn't mean these don't need fixing. If you get fed up that's fair enough and there are plenty of other ways which you may prefer to contribute to Wikipedia. Personally I'm finding it quite satisfying working through a big list like this, and I'm learning some things in the process. I'm thinking of applying to go on Mastermind - specialist subject: Things beginning with P.--Spondoolicks 14:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

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[edit] WP:MIND

OK, I'll do it within the next week (if there is anyone still working on it...) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 16:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MIND 22:24, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:MIND 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:MIND 06:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Vandalism by user 64.18.36.7

It's possible but—given their disparate editing habits—unlikely. I can't resolve the IP, but I'm guessing it's either a dynamic address, or one shared by a network. There is a way to confirm sockpuppets, but only a certain few have the permission level to do so. See m:CheckUser for a discussion on this; you'll see that the use of this function is controversial, and that it is usually reserved for urgent cases. In any event, thank you for the note. Cheers, -- Hadal 12:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Society Portal - Categories Section

This was a bit of a quick hack when I changed Category:Society to use Template:PortalPage, since there is no place to put the special topics on that template and having a list of categories seems a bit redundant now the portal is on the category page. I don't think I am qualified to judge what should be on this specific portal, so if somebody wants to change this I would have no problem with that. --R.Koot 15:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:People's Progressive Party (Malaysia)

Sorry, can't find the link. It seems permanently dead. Johnleemk | Talk 16:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Nowina Coat of Arms

I don't know that much about coa, but I got in touch with the author of the pictures (Emax has unfortunately stolen the pics from his website and book). I got the permission to use the current pictures and upload the new ones (under smaller size-150px), and now face the job of tagging all the pictures just as with Image:Herb Abdank.jpg. Perhaps you could help? If there is any specifc reason for your interest with Nowina, I can give you the email of the author (he wrote a book on the Polish coats of arms) or if you cannot speak Polish, email him mysself with your question. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 15:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately I know nothing about Poland, heraldry or Polish heraldry. I'd love to know more but until I do I can't really help with this article. I came across it as I was undoing the edits of a minor vandal and noticed it needed some work. I thought you may be able to help as you have contributed to Polish heraldry so I'm sorry to have landed this on you. --Spondoolicks 15:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Done. Halibutt 21:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MIND

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[edit] Re: Tapasya

You're most welcome. Good luck on all endeavors holmes - User:Rama's Arrow

[edit] Graeme Lawton Afd

Thanks for reverting my vote. Dlyons493 Talk 21:27, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Broken links

I'll create an updated list soon. It does take a long time to run. But soon... Promise! - Marumari 04:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Done! -- Marumari 01:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Byron redirect

It seems to me that to redirect a common name to one person when there is a disambiguation page is wrong... If you wnat the page Byron (disambiguation) fine, but then Byron should redirect there and not to one person, even as well known as Lord Byron is. That's what disambiguation is all about. The links should be changed and corrected in any event with a pipe edit to be direct. This is the type of thing IMO that some concensus should be gained on before action. Doc 21:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: WP:MIND

Glad you liked the changes. I don't see a problem with adding wiki-links. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikifun

Hi, I've noticed you've taken part in Wikifun before.

Just to let you know, Round 11 begins today at 0900 GMT. Dmn 04:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for fixing these dead links. Appreciated! ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 16:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Odd paragraph added by User 193.62.205.209

What is a Swedish?? 345 pilgrimer omkom i Mecka Folkmassan fick panik - pilgrimerna trampades ihjäl Inga svenskar uppges ha skadats. Radio "Alla svenskar mår bra" had Hallak från Islamiska förbundet är en av de svenska pilgrimerna. TV Över 2 miljoner pilgrimer samlade i Mecka.

Tänk om!

As I don't speak Swedish I have no idea what this is about - especially since on other pages this user has claimed he is Chilean. Perhaps this is Erik Bongcam-Rudloff (Chilean born, Swedish scientist) and he's trying to mess with my head for being the only one to vote delete on his article's AfD nomination.

Either that or the signals being beamed into my brain by CIA satellites are making me paranoid. --Spondoolicks 11:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Since I happened to trace the edits by 193.62.205.209, (after rv some of his edits at the John Ausonius article) and found my way to this, I might as well tell you what the Swedish text he published here means: (it is a little weirdly written, but here we go):

345 pilgrims dead in Mecka – The mass of people panicked – the pilgrims were tramped to death – no Swedes have been reported injured - Radio – “All Swedes are fine” – had Hallak from the Islamic League is one of the Swedish pilgrims – TV – over 2 million pilgrims were gathered in Mecka. – What if! Bronks 13/1 2006

Oh. How strange. Thanks for the translation. --Spondoolicks 13:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad to have helped. Bronks 13/1 2006

[edit] Wikifun round 12

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[edit] St John Bosco

There has been some additions to the John Bosco page saying he was a closest homosexual or pederast. This is not NPOV.

• Saint John Bosco

Do you agree?evrik 23:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

• The edit fight is not going well. evrik 05:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiprojects Saints

Something new ...

--evrik

[edit] WooPS

Thanks for catching my typo in creating The Big Woo! Someday I will get my brain properly connected to my fingers, and then, lookout world!

Atlant 16:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philip Neri

Upon what basis do you call me a vandal? Ian Spackman 22:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your good-natured reply. I beg to differ. Ian Spackman 09:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preventing an edit war on the saints

It was the established operation of the WikiProject Saints to have a section in the info box on a sample prayer. Some editors have been recently been attacking this in the individual articles.

It is my belief that prayers in a literary or historic context are NPOV. I can understand that some may consider the inclusion of a prayer to be hagiographic, but freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

There is a 3RR about to happen on a number of these articles. I am trying to be philosophical about this, but don’t want to yield the point when what is happening goes against the consensus and borders on vandalism.

It is my understanding that if an editing disagreement occurs that the status quo, in this case leaving the prayers in place, holds until it is resolved. I encourage you to comment on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Saints. I have posted my thoughts at the village pump.

--evrik 15:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saint Rita of Cascia

I just deleted your edits. Sorry! --evrik 22:20, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed event policy for Wikicalendar

I recently posted some ideas about developing criteria for what should and should not be listed on Wikicalendar events at the Wikicalendar's talk page. Since you're actively involved in this project, I thought I'd let you know so that you can comment or add more suggestions. Thanks :). Fabricationary 23:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamikaze up for deletion

Greetings, it may interest you to know that the article Islamikaze is up for deletion. Netscott 09:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great Priestly quote

We get the reverse of that, too, whenever an American does a study abroad program in Britain. They always come back with a mockney (ie Madonna) accent and a bunch of complaints about the unavailability of HP sauce. Oh, and thanks for moving the useful bit of commentary by that guy over to Talk:Hot dog. Cheers youngamerican (talk) 12:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks . . .

for the encouragement. It's much appreciated. At any sign of incipient monster-ness don't hesitate to so advise. Best. FuCyfre 13:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See also - Gamesmanship

'See also' is a place to put links to articles about similar subjects. In football a player can be penalised for "time wasting" or other offences which are not strictly defined within the rules and might come under the heading of gamesmanship. It used to be called "ungentlemanly conduct". Now they call it "unsportsmanlike conduct". Diving used to fall into this category, however it is now specifically prohibited under the law related to "simulation". Jooler 09:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

See -

• http://www.petitiononline.com/fa250105/petition.html
• http://www.squarefootball.net/article/article.asp?aid=359
• http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27349-2039044,00.html
• http://www.fifa.com/en/WorldLeagues/index/0,4643,116146,00.html?articleid=116146
• http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4775558.stm
• http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/18/stories/2005111810171900.htm
• http://www.kenaston.org/LAWS/LAW-GAME.htm
  • "Law 12 lists the punishments for fouls and misconduct. ... Simulating fouls, commonly known as diving (especially by an attacker in the penalty area) .... Feigning injury to waste time or to stop the flow of the opposing team: Substitutions, in the last seconds of a game: Inflammatory (and sometimes racist) remarks between players: Players constantly haranguing the Referee: These are just a few of our modern gamesmanship warts."
• http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=32/newsId=413283.html
  • the whole world thinks British fans and English players are the fairest - and foreign players are blamed for gamesmanship in English football - but no less an icon than England striker Michael Owen performed one of the most spectacular dives in the history of the FIFA World Cup to win a vital penalty against Argentina in 2002."
• http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060304/1/67hv.html
  • "assistant referees to clamp down on time-wasting and reckless play as well as simulation and gamesmanship in general."
• http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/299/
  • The main difference between the British and continental styles of gamesmanship is that we Brits are considerably less theatrical. Footballers here are less inclined to tumble over in an exaggerated fashion or writhe around feigning injury. Under the traditional hard-man code of conduct in Britain, feigning injury was always frowned upon as essentially unmanly.
• etc.. etc..
  • Jooler 13:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsporting

If football, gamesmanship is covered under unsporting behaviour. Specifically in the LOTG - Law 12 - Decision 5 states "Any simulating action anywhere on the field, which is intended to deceive the referee, must be sanctioned as unsporting behaviour" Jooler 14:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Our article on football states - In particular, the offence of "unsporting behaviour" may be used to deal with most events that violate the spirit of the game, even if they are not listed as specific offences. Misconduct may be punished by a caution (yellow card) or sending-off (red card). - and so covers gamesmanship. Jooler 14:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The point is - previously there was no specific mention of "diving" or simulation as the IFAB call it. It is was covered by unsporting behaviour (formerly ungentlemanly conduct) i.e. gamesmanship, but now there is specific mention of it as a form of unsporting behaviour. You can't "cheat" if there's no rule banning it. It is up to the discretion of the referee how he interprets a dive and whether he issues a caution, or at least it was - now the Decision 5 of Law 12 insists that it must be punished. Jooler 14:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan Avery

Because of your edits on the Kimya Dawson article, I was hoping you would look at this article on her friend and fellow performer Ryan Avery, and lend your comments on the corresponding AfD. Thanks! PT ^(s-s-s-s) 23:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why church dedications are important

If someone was looking up a particular village to find out about it's history, the church played such an important part in English rural history that information about the church is important information that needs to be in the article. The dedication isn't the only piece of info that should be there either, information about the structure and design of the church and where in the parish it is can tell you so much about the history of the wider village. You mention that it is no more important than who the school is named after and the like: this is also information that should be included in my opinion: why the school is named after a particular person can also expand and illustrate the history of the location. Saying that the local shop is a Tesco's is going a bit far though... -- Roleplayer 14:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)