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Contents 1 Reverted Protested Revert 2 Reverted Mithraism changes 3 Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea 4 Dummy Edit 5 re: Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea title dispute 6 Civility 7 Why I support Hideyoshi's invasions 8 Possibly unfree Image:Jang Yeongsil.jpg 9 Possibly unfree Image:Woo Ryang Gyae.jpg 10 Possibly unfree Image:Water Clock Made by Jang Young Sill.jpg 11 Possibly unfree Image:Hon Chon Eyee.jpg 12 Possibly unfree Image:Records of Jang Young Sil.jpg 13 About your user comment 14 Image:Water Clock Made by Jang Young Sill.jpg 15 Image:Gama.jpg 16 Quitting? 17 Mediation case 18 Chill... 19 A Barnstar to a fine contributor! 20 User talk:4.23.83.100 21 RE: Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea 22 Mediation cabal case 23 WikiProject South Korean counties and cities 24 I must be insane 25 Oriental 26 Oriental 27 RVV reverted 28 sorry 29 Thank you 30 Please help 31 RE: dispute on disambig page 32 Welcome to the Military history WikiProject! 33 Image:Tan Kem Dae Memorial for Sin Lip.jpg 34 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Misato Katsuragi.jpg) 35 Re: Jang Yeongsil photo 36 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue IX - November 2006 37 Woodcut 38 WikiProject Korea thingy. 39 Vandalism? 40 Battle of Chingshanli 41 VP again 42 ThinkPad Criticisms 43 I need Information for editing guideline 44 Thank you for the Image 45 Battle of Chingshanli 46 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue X - December 2006 47 Tsushima Island 48 Battle_of_Chingshanli 49 Should I move Korean G-7 to HSR-350x? 50 Image:HSR350x 51 T-50 picture 52 Please Archive! 53 Permissions 54 Revert warning 55 Even Though this happened a while ago 56 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XI - January 2007 57 Notice 58 Show preview 59 Request for Mediation 60 WP:MILHIST Coordinator Elections 61 Mediation discussion 62 Statistics on Citation 63 WikiProject Military History elections 64 User name Change 65 Korea under Japanese rule 66 greetings! 67 Dokdo 68 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - February 2007 69 Possibly unfree Image:Dongdaegu.jpg 70 petition 71 The RfC on Korea history 72 Aviation Newsletter delivery 73 RQ 74 Goguryeo Issue 75 Sinmiyangyo 76 Sockpuppetry case 77 answer. 78 감사합니다. 79 Probably 80 User:Time of Flight 81 Je. nol-lla-oom 82 Block 83 Unblock request via e-mail 84 Bad News 85 WP:RFCU/Case/Assault11 86 Assault11 87 Discuss at Imjin war talk page 88 Archive? 89 Jue song hab ni da. 90 Your reverts in the ThinkPad article 91 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XIII - March 2007

[edit] Reverted Protested Revert

Sorry, would have protest the reversion on "Eye" here, but I mistook your username as being some kind of systemic bot or something.

[edit] Reverted Mithraism changes

Is there a reason why you reverted my changes to the Mithraism article?

I note that the user 'Wetman' reverted my change to the Mithras article to restore the AD/BC that he had edited out, and posted an insult on the talk page for that IP address (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.66.148.69). I don't profess to know much about Wikipedia (I do know rather a lot about Mithras), or how this should be handled, but must I endure this? He appears to be imposing his own POV on a lot of religion-related articles. Is there any moderation of this sort of activity? 84.65.221.121 21:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea

While it's good to be enthusiastic about improving the encyclopedia, your threat of changing the title of the "Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea" article to your preferred title "by any means" is not acceptable behavior here. Should you follow through on your threat, you will be blocked from participating on WIkipedia. Trying to force your opinion on others by threatening to engage in such tactics is not compatible with the official policies to assume good faith and to be civil. Please continue to make a concerted effort to resolve any disputes in a civil manner, especially as it seems that most of the other editors working on the article have begun coming around to a consensus. Thank you. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 07:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not fair. (Wikimachine 14:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Dummy Edit

Don't mind this. Never mind. (Wikimachine 14:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] re: Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea title dispute

Sure, but I dont know a lot about Korea and its History °≈§→ Robomæyhem: T/←§≈° 17:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! Try not to accuse others of "conspiracy," and have please remember the good faith policy. Also, it would be nice to avoid leaving misleading comments, like "consensus has not been reached" when you are in a superminority. —LactoseTI^T 17:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't mean conspiracy that way, and if you really advocate civility, don't readily give out warnings like that. And from my point of view, consensus hasn't been reached. (Wikimachine 17:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC))

If you don't mean words "that way," then don't use them in an ambiguous manner. In any case, read Wikipedia:Consensus for the definition of consensus in use at Wikipedia. —LactoseTI^T 18:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why I support Hideyoshi's invasions

(Response to your message on my talk page.) First, please don't forget that Korea was invaded and many, many were killed in the invasions. I know the image is unpleasant, but it's important to remember it the way it happened (as much as we can--so much history from that time is permanently lost). Second, Hideyoshi deserves the largest share of blame (or credit, I suppose) for the invasions. I think this is why most books do actually refer to it this way, and this is why most know it by this name. You can't have the heroes without having the troubles. On the surface, you might think people are arguing for a Japanese point of view title, but in reality they are actually painting the picture of what happened--and they are not trying to avoid saying that it was an outright invasion by Hideyoshi. When you actually have people admitting this is the most common name of the event, I don't see why you are trying to obscure the title. All too often (rightly or wrongly) Japanese are accused of whitewashing the truth with pretty words, but this time it seems we are doing it for them. Part of what makes me proud of Korean history is how people overcame the obstacles to become, for the most part, a respectable nation today. Komdori 13:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I left a response to your latest comments on my talk page. By the way, sorry for the flurry of PUI images--I was trying to clean up an article I found and realized they were tagged kind of in an odd way. Komdori 14:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Jang Yeongsil.jpg

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Woo Ryang Gyae.jpg

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Water Clock Made by Jang Young Sill.jpg

Right. Basically, permission has been given only to use the images on Wikipedia. The images have to be completely released into the public domain (or licensed under GDFL, which is basically the same thing) for us to use them, unfortunately. Herostratus 03:31, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

??? (Wikimachine 03:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC))

Well, see WP:C and Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ. Other than that, I'm not sure what your question is. Wikipedia policy is that anything on Wikipedia may be used by anyone else. Images tagged as for Wikipedia use only don't meet this criteria, therefore are not allowed. Herostratus 05:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but next time please don't delete immediately without letting me mediate the problems. (Wikimachine 00:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Hon Chon Eyee.jpg

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Records of Jang Young Sil.jpg

[edit] About your user comment

I don't know about Komdori being a sockpuppet, but I do seriously think that he is not Korean. I want to see the truth of the matter, whether its good or not. KiteString 19:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Water Clock Made by Jang Young Sill.jpg

Can you ask him to clarify what he means? He said, "If it's up to me, I have to copyright to those pics I offered," which might mean he _wants_ to copyright them. I think he might have made a typo, though, and means wants to release the copyright. Also, someone added another picture to this page (a good one), so if he refuses it's not a big deal. Komdori 13:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I have put another pictures of the water clock. I'd rather delete this picture. (Wikimachine 16:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC))

The other picture... He clearly said that he intends to have no copyright, but is not sure if pictures of displays in a museum are copyrighted. So he said, if it's up to him, he would consider those copyrighted by the museum (pictures taken by himself), which is untrue.

Komdori, those pictures are results of my hard work in searching the web. They can't be posted easily without copyright violations.

(Wikimachine 16:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Image:Gama.jpg

When uploading images, please be sure that you're not saving over another existing image. I copied the one you uploaded and placed it back into the article under a unique title. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 19:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Did I replace an existing image? Sorry. (Wikimachine 02:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC))

Wikimachine, my fault for not being there at the vote. It would have made all the difference. I've been busy, and couldn't get to alot of people. I'm actually really confused. A lot has happened since I was gone ㅠㅠ. Just ask if you need any help. Oyo321 22:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (Wikimachine 04:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Quitting?

Wikimachine, you seem to be considering giving up on some discussions, but i really wish you wouldnt. You are one of a distinct few who can actually tlak some sense about Korea's viewpoint. Stay in, you are a valuable user to us. =KiteString= 00:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

KiteString, this is enough to do make me do anything. Then why not continue? All system go, T-10. (Wikimachine 02:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Mediation case

I removed your redirect as I was concerned that the bot that organises the medcab pages would choke on it. Hope this is okay. —Xyrael / 16:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure. (Wikimachine 16:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Chill...

Just a note: Although you are probably the mildest of cases, you tend to fume on talk pages. Your arguments are completely sound, but its just sort of hard to ignore some language that is suggestively offensive. I don't need to show examples, I trust you. =KiteString= 03:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your castigation. (Wikimachine 23:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC))

I never meant in any way to offend you. =KiteString= 19:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Barnstar to a fine contributor!

		The Epic Barnstar
		This Barnstar is for your endless contributions to the Imjin War article. You are a valuable editor and a strong voice. =KiteString= 19:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, KiteString! (Wikimachine 12:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] User talk:4.23.83.100

Hi Netsnipe. I'm Wikimachine, and I want to protest in defense of this anonymous user. This user has indeed participated in discussions, as shown here, but he did not sign his name. Obviously, he is new to Wikipedia & does not know many of the features and policies. But he has very strong view. Please undo his blocked status. Thank you very much. (Wikimachine 16:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC))

P.S., how many administrators have reviewed his unblock request? (Wikimachine 16:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC))

His/her block log shows that he/she was blocked for 24 hours on 19:31, October 2, 2006 (UTC) while his/her edits to Talk:Korea started on 21:39, October 4, 2006 (UTC) after the block expired. My observation was correct at the time of reviewing his/her block. Anyway, block log entries are permanent, so there's nothing further I can do. Might also I suggest that you encourage your friend to create an account so that you can welcome them with {{User:Kukini/Welcome}} so that they can be fully aware of Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea

No, I don't know enough about the topic to vote fairly. Thank you for asking, but in future I'd appreciate it if you left messages at the bottom of my talkpage. —Xyrael / 16:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thx. I just followed the "new messages" button. (Wikimachine 23:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Mediation cabal case

Due to the move taking place, I'm assuming that the issue is completed. I'm closing the case; I hope I did a good job. If you have any feedback on how I did, I'd be very grateful for it. Thank you. —Xyrael / 20:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. (Wikimachine 16:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] WikiProject South Korean counties and cities

As I understand it the above project is pretty much inactive. I think you could make coverage of Korean cities more effective within the existing project. Deizio talk 11:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I must be insane

It will take about more than one month to finish my korean royal cuisine. I will cite references.--Drpepper000 17:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You aren't insane. (Wikimachine 17:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Oriental

I'm not sure if I'm responding properly to you but here goes. (My reply follows your messages.)

[edit] Oriental

Hi, this is Wikimachine. I saw your recent edits to the Oriental article, and even though your arguments were good, I suggest that you try to combine your additions to the existing paragraph instead of creating a separate paragraph of contradiction. Thanks for your efforts! (Wikimachine 04:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC))

Again, at the Oriental article, you put something I would consider nonsense, such as stuffs about American universities, how Asians take pride, etc. (Wikimachine 01:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC))

Please discuss before you edit. Your English is awkward & some of them are just complete nonsense. You don't put any reference to your claims. (Wikimachine 17:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC))

It is your opinion that my English is awkard and it is your opinion that some of what I say is complete nonsense. I respect and value your opinion. By the same token, you should be aware that others find your English awkward find some of what you have posted to be complete nonsense. For example, where do you support your claim about making English "the world's first culturally neutral language"? Even if you did support this claim, don't you think this argument belongs somewhere under "politically correct"?

In the forum, I think we can agree that it's important to stick to the facts. It's also important on unresolved issues to acknowledge both sides of an argument. I agree that many people think that Oriental is a derogatory term. But it's equally important to explain that many people do not think Oriental is a derogatory term. This is a question that cannot be settled between us. Admittedly, I am a wiki-newbie, so I'm willing to follow your lead, but I'm not going to stand for the dismissal of the opposing viewpoint. By the same token, I will not stand by while you post blatant bias. The headline "Objects not people" is an example of blatant and unsupported bias posing as a headline of some sort. There is no rationale provided for this opinion posing as a headline. The bottom line is I'm happy to follow your lead, but I will not let you post wrong-headed opinions in what is intended to be a fact-based neutral POV reference.

[edit] RVV reverted

on the Mark Twain article, I restored the sentence you removed and labeled RVV. In the future, please refrain from labeling an edit RVV when it was nothing of the sort. If you object to the wording and wish to re-edit the page, please use an appropriate summary. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 15:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Poorly written, yes. Vandalism, no. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 19:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sorry

first WaterMark is something I read in A Book called "Science and Technology in Korean History Innovations excursions and Issues" would it be better if it was Korean watermark or I left a ref under the article?

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the welcome. As you can see, I just tried to copy content from the U.S. Library of Congress Country Studies for South Korea (and North Korea), which are public domain. Eventually, I hope to get around to figuring out referencing and linking formats, but first, there's a lot more I would like to transfer to various Wikipedia articles first. In the mean time, please help me with the formatting if you have the time. I appreciate the welcome and the help!

[edit] Please help

Please take a look at Demographics of South Korea. I've been trying to add content from the U.S. Library of Congress Country studies, public domain content. I thought you were supposed to add reputable content, even if you didn't know Wikipedia formatting rules, so that others could improve it. Instead, one editor keeps just deleting it, changing his reasons every time. First, he thought it was copyright violation. It wasn't. Then he complained that it wasn't wikilinked. I added wikilinks. Now he says it's irrelevant, even though it's all demographics content directly from the demographics section of the country study. I don't know what his problem is. Please help, this is a very effective way to discourage contributors. WikiWitchWest 23:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Immediately. (Wikimachine 00:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] RE: dispute on disambig page

Hello. My knowledge of disambiguation pages is sketchy but I've read it through. I would recommend using WP:3 to solve this one if discussion doesn't go further, but you should probably okay that with SteveBaker first. Hope that helps. —Xyrael / 22:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (Wikimachine 03:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

Thanks a lot (Wikimachine 19:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Image:Tan Kem Dae Memorial for Sin Lip.jpg

Hi Wikimachine! Let's keep Image:Tan Kem Dae Memorial for Sin Lip.jpg as a fair use image in that article only. Korea related articles need more illustrations, not less... Best, Himasaram 02:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I have added a fair use tag now. --Himasaram 06:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (Wikimachine 02:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC))

Hi Wikimachine, please see Image:Tan Kem Dae Memorial for Sin Lip.jpg. Note that besides the fair use issue, I don't think the image would add much to any article anyway. Please don't take this personal. Wikipeditor 19:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Moved here 19:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC) by Wikipeditor

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Misato Katsuragi.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Misato Katsuragi.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 20:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Jang Yeongsil photo

It's quite all right. You certainly improved the contrast of the image and made it more useful for use in articles.

I could finally take a picture I'm satisfied with: Even though I pass by that very spot every single weekday on my way to work, up until recently is has been either too bright or too dark to produce an acceptable picture from an acceptable angle. Anyway, glad you liked it too! --Himasaram 06:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! (Wikimachine 16:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC))

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[edit] Woodcut

Dear Wikimachine,

I can see no difference between the Airbus 380 & the Boring 767. That's because I know nothing about aircraft & can't be bothered to find out, or even remember their names correctly. I suggest we merge the two articles!

All the best Johnbod 04:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Korea thingy.

Hi Wikimachine,

Thanks for all of your contributions on Korean history and biography. Since you've got a talent for graphic design, perhaps you'd like to take a look through Template:Korea icons and the related navboxes. Anything you can do to snazz things up would be wonderful. Cheers, -- Visviva 13:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much! (Wikimachine 00:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Vandalism?

Hi there. You recently reverted an edit from my IP to The Song That Never Ends. You can find the specific diff here. I'm a little bit confused about what in my edit was vandalism meriting a {{test1}} warning, so I have reverted your removal. Thanks for continuing to revert vandalism, but please be cautious using VandalProof. It's a fairly powerful tool. I'd appreciate your response. Regards, 72.23.224.5 04:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, if that's the case. I think you 're a fellow Wikipedian. I don't know the song myself but the title and the lyrics seemed to correlate. I'll remove you from my blacklist. (Wikimachine 04:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC))

Meh, that's OK. I suspect that edits from this shared IP should be watched. And yeah, I've made a couple of edits to wikipedia in my time :). I ran the rest of your contribs, and you seem to be doing a great job, so keep up the good work. 72.23.224.5 04:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your compliments! (Wikimachine 04:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Battle of Chingshanli

Battle of Chingshanli article keeps on being editted by this one Japanese Wikipedian Nanshu and uses Japanese sources for his infomation claiming its a farce and under-rates Japanese KIA/WIA and the end of the article is this: "This means that the only source that was said to support the Korean victory was a fiction." also looking at his edit history he is obviously very biased against China and VERY biased Against Koreans don't know if you can help anything but any help would be appreciated.

Also on Tsushima Island under Sovereignty claims by South Korea 

"The Japanese government did not make any official responses to the city council's claim ,because its claim was very stupid.　However, many Japanese feel that Korean is childish, passion-like people and hard to go together." Its Terriable English and very biased against Koreans perhaps you could do something about it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Easternknight (talk • contribs) 02:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Immediately & definitely. (Wikimachine 03:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] VP again

This also doesn't seem like an appropriate VP reversion. 67.117.130.181 21:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I thought that "pellet stove" was a redirect to the article itself & so the edit was vandalous. Sorry. (Wikimachine 22:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] ThinkPad Criticisms

Can you, perhaps, review ThinkPad#Citations for Criticism once more? Thanks. --Karnesky 02:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure. (Wikimachine 02:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] I need Information for editing guideline

There is a user called User:Opp2 in Talk:Dokdo. He seems to be bias, and many editors in Wikipedia notice the issue. He claims that he will "delete the description about Japanese contradiction and terra nullius for NPOV and clearing the fabrication if no one can confirm a Japanese government's original source." I don't think this is a good idea, and I am afraid that Dokdo article will be edited in a wrong biased way, especially without coordination between editors. So I told him several times that he is bias and he doesn't simply have enough witness to simply support his argument. He is being really tough to protect himself against criticism from a lot of opposing editors. He demands for wikipedia editing guideline. The quote by this user: "Do you say that the lie and POV have to leave at Wikipedia? Is that written in the guideline? Please teach where of the guideline to be being written."

I want your feed back right away and help us in Dokdo Talk Page. Thank you.--Jamesshin92 02:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jamesshin92, I've responded promptly to the discussion at Dokdo article. Thanks for your notice, and I hope you will make a great contributor for Korea-related articles in Wikipedia! We've lost several key editors because they were caught for dishonorable acts such as sock puppetting. (Wikimachine 06:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Thank you for the Image

I really thank you for the image.--Jamesshin92 06:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Chingshanli

its been 20 days since you commented in the article so if you send me reliable sources Ill work on the article .--Easternknight

Hi! Cherry merrimas! I commented on the Battle of Chingshanli 20 days ago? Actually, I don't remember commenting on it at all. Let me go & check it out. (Wikimachine 03:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC))

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[edit] Tsushima Island

Hi Wikimachine.

Thanks for your message. The first revert I made was a mistake on my part - I was still getting to grips with using VP and reverted the edits to Tsushima Island instead of another article. I then tried to revert my own edits (as the 1st rv ws a mistake) and reverted to your edits instead of the IP Address whose edits I reverted. I hope that makes sense!

• And then 2nd rv removed this reference "<ref name="donga">[http://www.donga.com/fbin/output?f=j_s&n=200407220321 donga.com]</ref>". Was the ref outdated or inexistent? The IP Address before removed this - the edit history said: http://www.donga.com/fbin/output?f=j_s&n=200407220321 donga.com　Information on ancient Tushima is not being written on this page

• <ref name="wikimedia">[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Historical_maps_of_Korea Wikimedia Commons category on Historical maps of Korea]</ref> - The IP Address user removed this stating: There is no information in this link at all. Please add information in the map

• Your 2nd rv added "However, because South Korean tourist's manners were bad, the Tushima assembly decided to make manners of fishing a law.<ref>県対馬海区漁業調整委員会 - 対馬でまき餌制限へ　韓国人客の法令抵触対策 [http://www.nagasaki-np.co.jp/kiji/20061228/05.shtml]</ref>"

Was this addition intentional? I think I removed it because it was out of context (tourism =/= manners of fishing), and also POV (does not provide defense for the subject of this criticism).

This was my mistake. This appears to have been removed again.

Please accept my apologies for the unnecessary confusion I caused.

Yours, Matthuxtable 12:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It was completely my fault anyway, but looking at the page history for the article I can see how much vandalism and other problems you have on that article! Thanks for the understanding. Yours, Matthuxtable 12:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle_of_Chingshanli

I found your comment in Battle_of_Chingshanli article. You said that "NPOV policy states that not only should you present Japanese point of view and but also you should give Korean point of view as well" and "you construct these Korean claims all yourself". I am demanding the same thing about takeshima article. And, I was pointing out your limited knowledge about Battle_of_Chingshanli. My best regards. --Opp2 22:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I'll go ahead & answer your statements. Thanks for your notice. (Wikimachine 22:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Should I move Korean G-7 to HSR-350x?

Should I move Korean G-7 to HSR-350x?

Search results for "Korean G7" by 69.245.43.115 show

• 1 on the 1st Google pg
• 1 on the 2nd Google pg
• 0 on the 3rd Google pg
• with 775 total pages and 795,000 similar pages

while search results for "HSR-350x" show

• 6 on 1st Google pg
• 10 on 2nd Google pg
• 10 on the 3rd Google pg
• with 162 total pages and 575 similar pages.--Jamesshin92 09:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. (Wikimachine 21:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Image:HSR350x

I have seen image HSR350x.JPG, it is well done. Nevertheless, isn't better to post up the real photo of it? (because in articles like Shinkansen, Eurostar, KTX, TGV all have the photographs for each of the trains)

Do you think Graphic Design of this train must be removed or replaced?--Jamesshin92 06:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, tell me the way to take down the image. --Jamesshin92 07:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I want to draw through the computer based on the real image (not traced), is that part of copyright vio? --Jamesshin92 07:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

That CG is based on multiples of images, I examined through websites. I sourced each image I examined. So, it is an overal picture. The way I said "there is no specific images" I meant like copying or tracing.--Jamesshin92 07:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I made a link to your talk page from this image, for people who would want to discuss about this image. Is that okay for you? --Jamesshin92 07:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] T-50 picture

Thanks for securing a pic of the T-50 Golden Eagle! - Aerobird 03:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Archive!

Hello could you please archive the discussion page on Dokdo? It's becoming too difficult to read because of Opp2's constant blabberings;; Thanks! --DandanxD 16:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Wikimachine. I'm sure you know a lot of people are sort of watching but not reading Opp's lectures anymore at the Dokdo page. It's great that you are trying your best to be nice to him, but please don't encourage his crusade and original research. When and if he provides proper secondary sources (in English, please!), other editors can judge the verifiability and reliablity of his sources. It doesn't make sense to me to add his obscure and controversial claims first, without any proper citations. I've never seen people put in new strange claims together with a "citation needed" tag. As far as I've seen, those tags are added when some pre-existing sentence is not too controversial but not obvious either, and has already been long-standing in an article. In the Dokdo case, it would make more sense to try to keep the discussion about citations in the talk page, until other editors agree that Opp's claim has been properly referenced. Thanks. Wikiment 01:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Permissions

Perhaps you already know WP:COPYREQ and WP:ERP – if not, you might find it useful. Wikipeditor 02:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I asked him if the image could be used by anyone for any purpose (commercial, public, private, etc.) even at modified stage (at any level). Thanks for your guidance in copyright issues. I really was blind about copyright back then. (Wikimachine 03:00, 19 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Revert warning

Please do not engage in edit wars over wording and content on the Japan-Korea relations. You are very close to violating the three revert rule. Please discuss any changes you wish to make on the talk page, especially if the changes may be controversial. You may also try following the steps for resolving disputes as they are very useful in resolving disputes between editors working in good faith. We appreciate your assistance in maintaining a good editing atmosphere on Wikipedia. Thank you. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Even Though this happened a while ago

Why did you edit the Wikiproject To-Do List? What was wrong with it in the first place? Oh and as it is Peace Corps is the worst form of Cultural Imperialism By using the United States Congress we should repeal DADT and thus saving the world from Nuclear Genocide :P

-Easternknight

OMG, OMG OMG!!! DADT!!! I HATE THAT AFF!!!!

No, Peace Corps can see the reversal of power relations - that is, if Peace Corps has that much potential to expand cultural imperialism, it has that much potential to reverse that relations. And I have plenty of cards talking about how the volunteers are not willing to teach but explore and learn together. That way, no cultural imperialism!

Anyways, Visviva said that the todo list was outdated & I wanted a much smaller To-do list. I was going to make the to-do list like that of WikiProject Japan.

The real problem arose when Good friend100 suggested categorizing the to-do list into those of corresponding working groups.

It's really impossible to do categorization that way. So, after a few edits at the to-do list (to make it look like one) I gave up. For example, military history & history... uh... where's the line? And housekeeping group gets all the messed up articles - which are pretty much the entire Korea-related articles. It's too confusing. I can't redo the todo list by myself. And I was consumed away by the Dokdo article's current maelstrom. (Wikimachine 03:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC))

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[edit] Notice

I'm going to be inactive for an indefinite duration of time. Thanks a lot everyone! P.S. Maybe I'll be able to edit on the weekends. (Wikimachine 03:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Show preview

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Sorry, I'm not used to doing previews. (Wikimachine 23:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC))

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[edit] Mediation discussion

Hi Wikimachine, thanks for letting me know about the type of mediation which you want to prefer. Please response on the Mediation page and it would be preferrable if you put your type of mediation on the mediation page itself again. Regarding your comments about the sock-puppets, I just want to say one thing, Mediation is not vote. If somebody want to say some thing (s)he could say it him(her)self, there is no need of seperate account to say. It does not matter, if they are sock-puppets. Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 19:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Statistics on Citation

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[edit] User name Change

I believed that the admisterator changed my user name. After I waited a bit, I just changed it manually. I hope the admisterator will take care of this. --Kingj123 23:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Korea under Japanese rule

Hi.

I left a response on the topic discussion page.

Thank you. 125.203.207.252 02:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] greetings!

thank you got your greeting. i hope you had a great Seollal, and 새해 복 많이 받으세요. i agree that there's not too much happening at the Korea hubs, but fear not, Wikimachine. I think the folks who have a big role in WikiProject etc are temporarily occupied with other stuff. they will be back. in fact, they may not have left (if you know what I mean)...things may not b as they seem..-|- -- Mumun 無文 19:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dokdo

I believe that Opp2 is stuck replying to our recent questions... and I hope that he could just relax out of Wikipedia for a while, and finish off with his "international law." I think that we finally got it. --Kingj123 20:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Dongdaegu.jpg

[edit] petition

{http://www.petitiononline.com/comfortw/petition.html} please sign the online petition to the Japanese government, regarding the comfort women issue. thanks. Odst 08:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for the link. I would have signed it anyways if I knew that this petition existed (I mean, if anybody suspects cooperation, etc.) (Wikimachine 19:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] The RfC on Korea history

Hi -- thanks for commenting on the RfC. The RfC needs at least one more user to certify its necessity, and if you are interested in certifying it, please do so. Thanks. (Point as to the Chinese/Japanese points of view is taken, but I think for Korea history (talk • contribs) the situation is problematic because he/she almost never discusses his/her edits.) --Nlu (talk) 08:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RQ

Would you please create a logo for the AINW (Association of International Wikipedians)? Since AIW is already taken, I decided to use AINW. It would be thankful if you can create a logo with a picture of the international Wikipedias (etc.). 그리고 님이 한국분이셔서 참 반갑내요. ㅋㅋ. 저는 국제위키백과인과 고수네이버지식인인 윤일하입니다. 앞으로 저의 목적은 모든 위키백과를 통일하는 것이고 우리나라를 전세계에 날리는 것입니다. 그리고 AINW 로고를 만드실수있으면 많은 감사드립니다. 우리 같이 함께 잘 해냅시다. 저의 AIM은 Orthodoxi입니다. 저의 이메일은 ilhayoun@gmail.com 입니다. 그럼, 감사합니다.Orthodoxy 01:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

안녕하세요! 저 한국말 잘 못하지만, orthodoxi 님을 저가 굉장히 반가워 하기 때문에 한국말 쓸래요. AIM 이 내 컴퓨터를 느리게 만들어저 많이 안 쓰지마는, 만약에 제가 쓸때 orthodoxi 님이 온 한다며는 인사 드리겠습니다. 저도 위키백과와 legitimate means 를 통해서 한국에 대해서 더 알리고 십슴니다. 한국의 좋은것들을 좋은데로, 나쁜것들은 나쁜데로. 괴장히 베이직 한것 좋차 외국인들은 한국에 대해서 모르는 형편에다가, 일본에 대해서는 완전한 Ph.D. 있는것처럼 사람들이 알더군요. 꼭 따른나라들에 대해서 더 알려지는 것을 실어하는 것은 아니지마는, 이 system dynamic 을 위키백과를 통해서 고칠수 있다고 생각합니다. 당신의 1 edit 이 만들어 진 순간, millions of readers 들이 당신의 edit 을 볼수 있기 때문입니다. 예. 재가 logo 를 열심히 만들어 보겠습니다. If orthodoxi 님이 design 을 진작 생각해둔 것이 있다며는, 말해주새요. (Wikimachine 06:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC))

I will just write in Korean for the last time; 예, 로고를 만들수있다고 하셔서 참 감사합니다. 제가 미리 생각해둔 디자인은 별로 없이만, 뮈, 가운데에 AINW 글자가 크게 적혀있고 가에(border)에 국제위키백과위 그림이나 아니면 모든 나라들의 위키백과 글자와 그림을 놓는것입니다. 예를 들어 한국위키백과 로고, 중국 위키백과 로고, 프랑스어 위키백과 로고, 러시아어 위키백과 로고. 뮈, 그렇게 화려할일은 없고요, 간단하고 simple하게 만들어 주시면 참 좋겠내요. 아참, 그리고 24시간 안에 이메일에서 답장을 받고 싶으시면 younilha1@naver.com에 보내주세요. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 15:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goguryeo Issue

I'll be writing about the problems with the Korean side, and will post 2 days from now (darn school, too busy while being sick...) Will you check on it later? General Tiger

Thanks. (Wikimachine 20:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Sinmiyangyo

Hi, I wonder if you could weigh in on the debate at Talk:Sinmiyangyo. Needeless to say, I don't take for granted that you will agree with me, but I find the arguments put forward in favor of Sinmiyangyo quite bizarre to say the least.--Niohe 00:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry case

Wikimachine,I was so impressed by your claim I am using Sockpuppetry to support the chinese side in Goguryeo.It is completely insulting to classify others as the same person just because they hold the same opinion.From the time when I first editing in Wiki,I tried to respect any different view from anyone.I had never attacked any users personnaly.Maybe you are trying to infuriate me by such behavior,and I wont go mad for it,and will let you play to the end.--Ksyrie 05:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That's no suprising,nowdays wiki is the top 10 site in the english cyberspace.I sometime found there are always too many people editing the same page and often they shared the same or similar view.You are somehow hyper-susceptible.--Ksyrie 05:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

You konw when I see the Sockpuppetry case I was so astonished.I can understand your way if you had experienced such case.But sometimes,the accusation is too superficial.And furthemore,the Sockpuppetry is no good.It's wiki, where is a place to provide verifiable sources,the numbers of same voices doesn't help.--Ksyrie 05:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• • • • • You should really do some research, like the speech hobby, the samo samo opinion, when they get online, ips, maybe you will find the Inconvenient Truth. :D--Yeahsoo 17:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

What an amusing little fellow. Then again, its no surprise.Assault11 19:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] answer.

저를 도와주시려는 겁니까? 번역만 한다면 저도 Nlu보다 더 논리적으로 반박할 수 있습니다. 답변을 기다리죠...

Help me please! translation request.

and Nlu is Dae Mangniji (대막리지, 大莫離支)를 negate. 대 를 집어넣은것도 죕니까?

도와주십시오. 이젠 이유없이 공격하네요...

(Korea history 13:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Wikimachine, I think he means that he can't read very well in English. Orthodoxy 21:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 감사합니다.

국제위키백과협회에 서명을 싸인해주셔서 감사합니다! 님이 저의의 협회에 참여를 해주셔 많은 사람들에게 큰 도움이 될것입니다. 다시한번 많은 감사를 드립니다. 한국어를 잘 못하셔도 편안하게 느끼시고 질이 나쁜 한국어라도 번역을 해주세요. 아참, 그리고 벌써 알고있는것 이겠지 만은요, 한국어위키백과는 영어위키백과랑 많이 다릅니다. 그럼, 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 13:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome. I think that the AINW is a great "unifier". Did you send the logo through my email? I thought you posted it on my talk page... Anyways, thank you. Orthodoxy 18:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

WOW. ARIGATO GOJIMASDA!!! MERCI!!!! GAM SA HAP NI DA!!! SHE SHE!!! The logo is soooo cool. How did you think of such a creative design!!! I should give you a barnstar for designing soon (if it exists). I will kind of make it darker myself, because it is hard to notice when it is in 50px or less. Anyways, thank you so much. I owe u a lot. 진심으로 감사하옵니다 대인. <<尹一荷>> Orthodoxy 20:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC) But I have one question, Why is it in Japanese?

oh, no. It's ok. It's better to create peace btw japan than make them our enemy. It might be weird, but I will be away from wikipedia (all languages including english and korean) because I recently got interested in Love Hina. I am going to research on it and improve the article on Love Hina for all languages. It is already in the Corean and French, so the major Wikipedias that I have to work in are... italian, russian, spanish, polish, and svenska. Please do not think that I am a pㅓvㅓ트. I am just doing more research for the sake of my contributions to Wikipedia. I will be back in wiki in less than a month. I will try to visit AINW often along the way. 그럼 안녕히계십시오. Orthodoxy 01:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Probably

Probably, and I'm in high school right now, unlike most editors who have a job or are in college. Can't beat the education and knowledge right? =) Good friend100 02:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Time of Flight

Time of flight deleted the sock puppet accusation template from their page. Is this allowed? Figure you would be the best to ask since you placed it there. Bsroiaadn 03:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

S/he's not allowed to do that. (Wikimachine 03:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Je. nol-lla-oom

Wow, we have a lot of things in common! Oh, and I meant the manga, not the anime. I already saw all 25 episodes of love hina, finished "love hina again", and started the spring and the christmas one. I decided to read all of the mangas, cause 50% of the story is missed in the anime, and the manga is like a google plex times better. It seems like that you are younger than a college student. Am I right? I'm a mid. schooler. (Please do not think that I am too young to make stuff like AINW. I am just the founder, not the president or anything. :(. Anyways, I watch (korean) dramas, but I recently got interested in manhwa (manga). ok. an neung! Orthodoxy 03:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block

You've been blocked for 48 hours for disruptive editing and for threatening to encourage a wheel war. --Nlu (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock request via e-mail

Hi. This is user Wikimachine blocked by admin Nlu for "Disruption and taunting" @ IP address 69.245.43.115 (I think there's another one, but the admin blocked both).

The block evolved out of a dispute on talk page of the article Goguryeo, in which Chinese POV editors and Korean POV editors wrangled over whether or not to put Chinese viewpoint on the country, mainly derived from the Northeast Project. I filed a sock puppetry case on user Ksyrie (later Nlu changed suspected sock puppet to Assault11) & did some serious research into all of the accused' history & possible IP addresses.

However, I found some missing links that blocked me from getting a final conclusion. Therefore, to clarify those missing links, I asked the accused to provide me their IP addresses.

And then, Assault11 replied, "Wow....stupid" questions like this? If anything, it would be in your utmost interest to NOT further reduce your stature by succumbing to non sequiturs." I had always suspected Assault11 to be sock puppet, & the fact that he was protesting this badly further strengthened my preconception.

I replied, "I don't know why you'd react that way, unless you were really a sock puppet & really unwilling to tell me your IP address. I already know, but I want to find out who's lying. Why, is this against the rules?"

Then admin Nlu said that "unless you were really a sock puppet" was inappropraite & would necessitate a ban in future cases. Since his reasoning sounded absurd & perhaps out of this frustration that he might have had against me for effectively rebutting all of his arguments in the dispute. So, I requested Nlu to get other admins to voice their opinion on the issue.

The entire deal was that Nlu wasn't going to categorize my comment as a personal attack until midst of the debate, which had already defined what Nlu had to go for (which is personal attack) in order to respond effectively.

In midst of the debate I posted this not to Nlu, "At the same time, I'd like all others -Ksyrie, Yeahsoo, Time of flight, and Assault11, to reply to my request." Then Nlu posted "Stricken as improper; do it again and a block will result." I had clarified in debate that a discussion was 2-sided & required both consent of the demanding and demanded in order for the results of the discussion to occur. Nlu had not replied to that, & I wasn't saying "unless you're a sock puppet" this time. I was merely asking for their IP adderss & I had already clarified that asking for someone's IP address is not harmful (which Nlu failed to reply to). Nlu's mode of discussion disturbed me b/c he was constantly ignoring my explanations & continuously asserted his threat to block if I asked for IP address again. This seemed more like a personal matter now, in which Nlu was going to place his position over mine as an authority - which I realized I had to contest in order to balance the debate.

So, I contested Nlu's right as an admin to block me with a 3-pyramid logic, which he simply ignored & to which he replied "Whatever. Again, do it again you will be blocked."

I just knew that Nlu didn't have any right as an admin to say "whatever, do it again you'll be blocked." At the same time, I knew that at some point in the discourse I had to clarify the extent of my rights as a Wikipedia user and limit of Nlu's powers granted as an admin. Therefore, I used this chance, and said "Whatever? Not again... Try, and I'll talk to another admin to unblock me.".

Nlu replied "Your invitation is accepted. You have been blocked for 48 hours. Do it again after your block expires, and the block will be one week". Thus the innocent was blocked...

Here are the problems.

1) "Try" was in context in which I would ask the users for their IP address with the personal attack of them possibly being sock puppets. a) That would be a case only when I repeat "unless you're a sock puppet", but if I were simply to ask for their IP address without personal attack, the block would be invalid.

2) "another admin" was in context in which Nlu had failed to bring opinions of other admins to the table & in which I was sure that other admins would agree with me.

3) Your invitation? I have a question about that. Just exactly what did I do to satisfy the 2 conditions mentioned above (1 & 2)? I reserve full right to contest the powers of a user as an admin in case of abuse.

Thanks. (~~~~)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): I unblocked you on process grounds. Please be more civil, and please note that you should not taunt others or argue that such conduct is not wrongful. Thanks, Khoikhoi 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC) Request handled by: Khoikhoi 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I can see how your comment appeared that you were challenging Nlu to block you with the claim that you could find someone else to unblock. I'm not judging, I am just letting you know that the wording wasn't clear. From my experience, Nlu is a trustworthy admin so I won't unblock, nor will I deny you an unblock. I will let another admin look this over. IrishGuy ^talk 07:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

For the context in which these statements occurred, see Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Assault11. --Nlu (talk) 13:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for understanding. When the discussion itself was on the subject of whether Nlu had the right to block me or not, & when I felt that the admin was using his/her power to mute my reasonings, of course I would have to say something that challenges Nlu as an admin. (Wikimachine 14:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Nlu did warn you three times, and you continued to push it. It was inappropriate to demand the IP address of another editor. You don't have any particular right to that information. Nor was it appropriate to try and use that demand to prove your suspicion (i.e. since the editor refused to give you his/her IP, that must mean he/she is guilty of something). IrishGuy ^talk 16:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Please don't make me the aggressor here. I didn't continue to push for "unless you are a sock puppet". Nlu simply ignored by reasonings.

I reasoned to him that yes I'm not entitled to people's IP address -however, it's up to the people whom I ask to provide their IP adderss or not, not Nlu. This was the point I was getting at.

You see admin Irishguy, I am going to be treated as a human being and no more. If I see that somebody's threatening me with such things as IP block & at the same time ignoring my posts - simply denying my rights to discuss the matter with the admin, I'm going to protest. (Wikimachine 16:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Furthermore, the block was based on misunderstanding. I didn't ask them the 3rd time (only 2nd, which Nlu had crossed out & gave me 2nd warning), and "try" like "go ahead" was in a context when I would defiantly ask 3rd time & Nlu would block me. That didn't mean that I was going to risk a block by asking 3rd time, right?

And as for any implication that you can derive from the discussion, please rethink. You can clearly see that I was arguing on a completely objective, debate-like basis. You can't read my posts with a human voice. Think of it as an automated program response. (Wikimachine 16:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Finally, it seems that you're looking at the discussion as a whole pie. However, analyze it as a time line. Once Nlu had clarified that demanding IP address w/ implication that whoever that does not provide his/her IP address = sock puppet, I never brought up "unless you're sock puppet" again. (Wikimachine 16:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Thanks a lot! I check my talk page about every 5 hours... Yay! Wikipedia's whole lot scarier than I thought. Now that I'm free to do something I don't know what to do. (Wikimachine 21:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Bad News

Some administrator deleted AINW. I guess our dream is gone. If you want to continue, I will create a sub page of AINW on my userpage. Don't worry. It will come back shortly. I still have your AINW logo picture, so... Good luck to both of us! ㅋㅋ Orthodoxy 13:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFCU/Case/Assault11 You recently compiled and listed a case at requests for checkuser. A checkuser or clerk has requested you supply one or more diffs to justify the use of the checkuser procedure in the case, in accordance with the procedures listed in the table at the top of the requests for checkuser page. For an outcome to be achieved, we require that you provide these diffs as soon as possible. This has been implemented to reduce difficulties for checkusers, and is essential for your case to be processed. A link to your recently-created case which has this information missing is here. Thank you in advance for your co-operation; Kindest regards, anthony[cfc] 22:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC) (CheckUser Clerk)

[edit] Assault11

I don't know how Wikipedia's policy works, so I just thought informing you on possible sockpuppets of Assault11 would be best. I think I know who this individual is. He trolls in internet forums using sockpuppets making similar attacks on Korea, particularly with regards to Goguryeo. I believe Ksyrie and Yeashoo are unrelated. I believe these to be Assault11's sockpuppets:

• Assault11 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• DefenderofGaogouli (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• DongBeiDefender (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• ChinesePower (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
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And as looking at things, I doubt a consensus can be reached at Goguryeo. As long as Assault11 et al's claims are given any serious considerations, consensus will be impossible. Cydevil 07:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply: As I've said, I'm not so familiar with Wikipedia policies, so I'm not the best to intervene in these matters. As for other matters concerned, I think we need some place where we can build some consensus ourselves. I've suggested a community at Daum. Any thoughts? Cydevil 12:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discuss at Imjin war talk page

Lets discuss at the talk page of War. Good friend100 17:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive?

I was wondering if you could archive part of the talkpage at Talk:Comfort women? It's 415 kilobytes long... eeeee, and I'd probably break it if I tried. Cheers, oncamera^(t) 18:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Just wait. I've got to turn off computer now. Wait. Thanks? (Wikimachine 18:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

Oh, whenever you have time is fine. I should thank you? Thanks, oncamera^(t) 18:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I had this thought that only admins could archive & you had mistaken me as an admin. That's why I put a question mark at the end. I'm really sorry. (Wikimachine 20:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

Oh, I think admins are a little too busy to be archiving pages and I figured you would know how to do it... just because. Haha, anyway, thanks again, oncamera^(t) 20:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jue song hab ni da.

Sorry Wikimachine. The page for the Wikipedia: Association of International Wikipedians was finally deleted. :( I guess my effort was for nothing. Anyways, there will be another chance and I will do a better job next time. I think the administrators wanted to delete it cause it was too poor in quality. Next time, I will elaborate and extend the page. For now, let's just forget about AINW. Your logo is not gone, fortunately. So, no great losses were caused. :)

You said that you liked animes. I prefer mangas instead. They contain more stories and has better art (it's just my opinion). I don't like love hina anymore. Yes, it is true that it has ecchi in it, and that is one of the reasons why I don't like love hina anymore. The one that I currently like, or my favorite, is negima (mahou sensei negima, magic teacher negima, magister magi negima, 마법 선생 네기마, 魔法 先生 耐氣魔). It contains beautiful art (only the manga) and the story line is awesome, especially the part with the action/magic. It's from the same author of love hina (rabu hina, 러브 in 러브). After refreshing from the stress (seems like you were in some trouble too), lets start a fresh new life in Wikipedia (all languages) again! Ahn neung until we meet again! Orthodoxy 15:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I still regret that I let the admins delete AINW. It had 5 members before the last second it was deleted. :( Don't watch the anime for negima. It sucks. It might seem like one of those one guy with 50 billion girls, but it is really an action/magic story. Just go through the first 2~3 volumes, then the story line will get very interesting. I bet that you will regret later for not reading this. I 100% guarantee that you will enjoy it. This might be a random question, but are you a student (high, mid, elemen, but not college)? I am sorry if this was impolite. I was just curious. As you have already guessed, I am a middle schooler. Orthodoxy 20:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your reverts in the ThinkPad article

You specified in your revert summary that you are doing this (ie. reverting) because I did not respond to your claim on my talk page stating: "I don't think a wiki is usable [...] as a source". What kind of response do you expect to this? If you think that wikis are unreliable then what are you doing here at Wikipedia? Perhaps making it unreliable too by removing relevant information.

Anyway, the fan problem is very real and I have a first-hand experience with this as a user of several ThinkPads. If you, for some unclear reason, are not satisfied with the two sources I've given, feel free to find one that is better-suited to your expectations. But it just so happens that the two most-informative independent sources for information about ThinkPads are a wiki and a forum. And I don't see a problem with Wikipedia referencing information from another, well-established wiki. Do you? Piotras 19:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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