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Contents 1 Schools 1.1 Don G. Giunta Middle School 1.2 Huffines Middle School 1.3 Oley Valley High School 1.4 John Jay High School (Cross River, New York) 1.5 Buckhorn Elementary School 1.6 Yarmouth Schools (Maine) 1.7 American Academy at Castle Pines 1.8 Exeter School 1.9 Rose Stein Elementary School 1.10 Sagewood Middle School 1.11 Sierra Middle School, Parker, Colorado 1.12 Deerfield-Windsor School Spring Musical 1.13 Griffith University Student Representative Council 1.14 Arbor Creek Middle School 1.15 Beth Shields Middle School 1.16 List of university libraries 1.17 List of the Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila degree programs 1.18 Primary education in Jamaica 1.19 List of schools in Jamaica

[edit] Schools

[edit] Don G. Giunta Middle School

Don G. Giunta Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Non-notable middle school, one of over a hundred middle and elementary school stubs put up by the editor over 14 months ago, very few of which have ever been improved. There have been zero substantive edits (other than mentioning that the fellow after whom the school was named was now deceased) since February 2006 save for repeated and frequent vandalism, which has become endemic in the last two weeks. Article was prodded three days ago, but prod was removed by an anon IP without comment or reasoning. Fails WP:ATT and WP:NN, no real prospect of the article ever being sourced or improved.  RGTraynor  03:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• 'Delete No assertion of notability, stub for over a year (and a 2 sentence stub at that). Should be speedy delete, but people seem to complain when a speedy tag is put on any school article. TJ Spyke 03:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 05:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, no assertion of notability. Naconkantari 05:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I tried looking for an article to merge this into, but on second thought, there's hardly anything to merge even if there was something to merge with. And it is a vandal magnet. I've reported the IP address to admins (absolutely nothing comes from that address except vandalism, apparently it's a computer in the public schools in that district). If anyone invests time and effort into creating a good article here, that editor will have to be around to watch it or see it destroyed by vandals. Not worth it in my book. Noroton 05:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Butseriouslyfolks 06:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - School does not appear notable enough for its own article. Any notability it has should be in a school district article, if one is ever created. Camaron1 | Chris 11:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. I agree with the reasons already given; it's not notable on its own. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 23:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Dpbsmith (talk) 00:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete per nom and 150 middle school stubs by user Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 01:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete but Instead of doing these deletions, why don't we organize to do merges instead. it would save a good deal of work. I started today with the middle schools in School District 43 Coquitlam near Vancouver . If each of us sharing this opinion did one district a week, we would slowly get the people who want to keep[ such articles to either join us or upgrade. DGG 09:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notable institution. Piccadilly 11:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huffines Middle School

Huffines Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

no legitimate sourced claim to notability, was included in earlier afd for another middle school in same district- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arbor Creek Middle School, but overlooked at time of deletion Chris 04:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: fails WP:ATT. I wouldn't say it doesn't make any legitimate claims to notability -- it makes several, in fact -- but nothing is sourced. If it is, my opinion may change, but it'll take some doing, given that I feel middle schools to be inherently non-notable.  RGTraynor  04:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 05:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Butseriouslyfolks 06:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Lewisville Independent School District. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 14:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Neutral - I do feel it is notable enough but there doesnt seem to be enough sources to support it.--Joebengo 18:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
• Merge per zzuuzz. Even though I've been involved in these debates before, I think only high schools (or similarly-situated "top level" schools) are notable enough for inclusion (since a high school generally is a focal point of a community, especially in smaller towns). Middle and elementary school information should generally be included in the article for the district that operates it. Wyv 00:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Addition: If the consensus is Merge, I volunteer to merge the notable information into the LISD article and establish the redirect. I have saved a copy of the article locally so I can incorporate the info.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wyv (talk • contribs) 00:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
• Keep Notable institution. Piccadilly 11:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Jay High School (Cross River, New York)

John Jay High School (Cross River, New York) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Fails WP:SCHOOL (if you don't want a defunct guideline, then WP:N). There is nothing cited in the article that makes the school notable. Sr13 (T|C) 02:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Non-notable school. TJ Spyke 04:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Changing to Weak Keep, but on the condition that it be cleaned up (a month should be more than enough). If it wasn't for the MSNBC mention, I would have kept my Delete vote. TJ Spyke 06:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep it's been covered by reliable, non-trivial published sources -- Robert ^See Hear _Speak 04:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep this is just about the minimum of notability for a high school article, but a useful reminder that less than this is certainly not enough. DGG 05:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 15:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep: meets minimum notability. Pig^man 18:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:VAGINA. --Butseriouslyfolks 20:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - This article needs some cleanup, but does seem to meet notability guidelines and does contain some references. Camaron1 | Chris 20:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - significant high school plus sourced controversy. TerriersFan 21:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep article makes explicit claims of notability using reliable and verifiable sources. Alansohn 15:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Buckhorn Elementary School

Buckhorn Elementary School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Little to no citations marking its importance; fails WP:N, WP:V, and perhaps WP:OR. Elementary schools are typically not permitted on Wikipedia unless they are of greatest importance. WaltCip 15:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 16:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and redirect to the school district article. On the one hand we have this little orphan waif of an article, sitting around with nothing being done to it, and on the other hand, nearby, we have this mama of a school district article, waiting with open arms to get more information put into it and just hug this lil stub of an article and care for it and nurture it and maybe help it to grow into a mature adult article. Let's not stand in the way of this inevitable family coagulation. And let's not delete, meaning an admin would have to approve recreation of the article when junior is big enough to cut the apron strings. Noroton 16:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• That's a sensible compromise. I'm willing to go with that.--WaltCip 16:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Yep, Merge into School District 57 Prince George per Noroton. Split back out again as necessary. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yarmouth Schools (Maine)

Yarmouth Schools (Maine) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

No notability asserted, article was created a second time after first article was speedy delete due to copyvio Seinfreak37 13:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 16:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Neutral Notability is a ridiculous concept for school districts. If either the (encyclopedic) information on the district is too large for the locality article or the locality article needs to be pruned back, then creating a school district article is the way to go. Although Yarmouth, Maine isn't too long and this school district article wouldn't yet overhelm it, the school district article was created only days ago, so it's premature to nominate for deletion when the creator may be ready to add plenty of encyclopedic information. If much more information is going to be added, I'd want to keep; if not, I'd want to redirect. Noroton 18:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep School districts are inherently notable and this article makes explicit claims of notability above and beyond that. That the article was recreated after a copyvio speedy is irrelevant, unless copycio issues are being raised again. This article should be the poster child for creating school articles: use the school district article as a shell for information about the district; create individual school articles once they have been expanded and can demonstrate independent notability. This AfD is entirely counterproductive. Alansohn 20:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep School districts are inherently notable as government bodies and as discussed countless times. TerriersFan 01:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, based on the same logic that causes us to keep even unsourced articles on tiny little villages (whatever logic that is). --Butseriouslyfolks 03:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep This sort of article seems the practical way to handle the problems with articles on individual schools: aggregate to the appropriate extent, depending on the material available. I see a number of people with different views on school notability seem agreed on this as a compromise. DGG 08:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American Academy at Castle Pines

American Academy at Castle Pines (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

no assertion of notability Chris 07:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 16:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, can't find anything notable about this school via Internet searches. -Seinfreak37 17:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom., schools are not inherently notable. Rjgodoy 00:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Merge and do not delete. The creator never made another edit after typing in these few lines back in mid-February. Merge into Douglas County, Colorado. It can simply go in as a short section of that article. Keep article as a redirect for possible future revival. Noroton 01:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Merge, but to Lone Tree (temporary location) or Castle Pines (future permanent location). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Butseriouslyfolks (talk • contribs) 03:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

• Merge into Douglas County, Colorado (since the school is moving from Lone Tree to Castle Pines I think both locations are superseded by the first). After American Academy at Castle Pines be a section of Douglas County, Colorado, editors there will decide if it is notable. Neutral about keeping article as a redirect. Rjgodoy 04:46, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exeter School

Exeter School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

This article, on one of the older schools in England, was speedy deleted by an admin with the cryptic reason "Poor excuse for an article... I'm tired of babysitting it". DRV overturned, as this reasoning is not with the CSD, among other things. I'm only guessing, but I presume the valid objection to the article was its lack of reliable sources. The matter is brought here for full consideration. This is a procedural listing, so I abstain. Xoloz 14:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep (as per comments here and below)Delete The article is unsourced, but I get the impression from the article history that an editor has been faced with reverting a lot of vandalism. If someone would tell us that they're interested in keeping an eye on it, then I'd support keeping it. Lack of references also make it very unimpressive. Noroton 16:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Despite the lack of references this is an interesting article about a school with a very long history. It has far more content than the vast majority of school articles. Vandalism is not a reason for deleting an article. Dahliarose 16:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do you mean to say that there's no reason to delete an article if it is continually the subject of vandalism and usually an embarassment to Wikipedia while simultaneously annoying readers who are searching for information about the school? I guess we just disagree. Noroton 18:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 16:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I truly believe that this is a very notable school. It is probably much like Phillips Exeter Academy. However, until it is sourced it will not withstand an AFD challenge. It would be easy to wikify it. However, the only sources listed are the school itself. I would imagine a little work could get this past a WP:A challenge. However, in its current state, it must go. I would be more lenient if the page had not been created in 2004. For a 3 year old article, this level of sourcing is inexcusable. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Subject is notable (although rather less so than Phillips Exeter Academy); bad quality of writing and poor referencing are reasons for improvement, not reasons for deletion. — mholland 17:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I do not know about the quality of the article itself, but [1] does also say the school was founded in 1633. I am willing to accept that any school a couple of hundred years old should probably have an article. Lack of sources is an issue, but not one that convinces me deletion is warranted in this case. Mister.Manticore 17:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I see no reason to delete - some tentative work has started by a couple of editors (inc. me) to raise the article up to standard. Weggie 18:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do you have it on your watch list? Are you interested enough in it to occasionally check it for vandalism? Or is someone else? Noroton 18:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have it on my watchlist. I will revert any vandalism within a reasonable time frame. I am not an admin however so will be pressing for semi-prot at the first act of vandalism (if and when..)Weggie 18:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)****Good enough for me. I changed my vote to "Keep" above. I just looked over the history of the article again, and maybe I misconstrued just how much vandalism was going on. You can also report vandals if you think that's necessary. Noroton 18:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - Per reasons above. It's getting better all the time. --Keefer4 | Talk 18:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Article has some issues but is notable and has plenty of potential. Frequent vandalism should not be a reason for deletion, instead article semi-protection or full-protection should be used. Camaron1 | Chris 20:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notability established in the article and references. PCock 20:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Hugely notable with nearly 400 years of history. TerriersFan 01:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as unsourced OR per WP:A, although clearly passes WP:N. This would be a good job for Alansohn. Also, if vandalism were a valid reason for deletion, some guideline would so state, and we'd have to delete George Bush, Bob the Builder and other frequent targets. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't have enough work to do!?!?! Looks like the needed work has been done already, anyway. Alansohn 15:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  • You mean no one is checking those articles and reverting deletions? Noroton 15:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep even those few arguing for deletion admit the school is notable. There is no serious question that it is sourceable, and we do not delete obviously verifiable articles for lack of sources. The effort used to delete it would have been better used to source it. (And a speedy seems altogether irresponsible.)DGG 08:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep School is clearly notable and issues with sourcing have been addressed. Bravo TerriersFan, et al, who have chipped in to improve the article. Alansohn 15:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

*Delete, per sourcing concerns. I tried pretty hard myself to locate some sources on this school: we'd figure if it was founded in 1633 there would be some, right? But I really couldn't find much. If all we can source is that the school was founded in 1633 and later changed its name, it's really not enough. Perhaps there is a book on the history of the school somewhere, or maybe a chapter in a book about Exeter? So those of you saying there are no sourcing concerns, I have one. This school is very old... but not everything created in 1633 has struck people as worth writing about. Mangojuice^talk 03:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• • Keep. Okay, wow. I should remember to reread the article before saying stuff. The above was based on the state when the article was deleted, back when I commented at the deletion review. Things are much better now. Mangojuice^talk 03:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rose Stein Elementary School

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no assertion of notability Chris 07:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Also at Stein Elementary School —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kintetsubuffalo (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

• Delete per nom, no assertion of notability. TJ Spyke 08:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 21:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete BOTH no sense even in merging this unsourced material. Noroton 21:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep It's a school so it's notable. Do you people just want to delete every article on Wikipedia or what? Xanucia 22:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Just so you know, that argument doesn't work. There are NO guidelines or policies that say schools are notable, schools have to pass policies like WP:N just like every other article on WP. As for you question, yes, we delete non-notable articles. TJ Spyke 22:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, personally I want to delete every article on Wikipedia. Noroton 16:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - What a shame that WP:SCHOOL failed the policy shift, as it would prevent us from having procedural deletions like these. And please WP:AGF and don't resort to WP:ALLORNOTHING.--WaltCip 16:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom / WP:N. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sagewood Middle School

Sagewood Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

save from rating, no assertion of notability Chris 08:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete NN school. I would say speedy delete, but there is a minor assertion of notability. TJ Spyke 08:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Of ten schools in the area, 8 received 'high' ratings (as did this one), 2 received 'excellent' ratings. This school is not the best even in its geographic area, thus non-notable. --killing sparrows 13:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 21:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:N/nothing special/per-nom Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 01:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sierra Middle School, Parker, Colorado

Sierra Middle School, Parker, Colorado (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

no assertion of notability Chris 08:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete No assertion of notability, it's not even a directory. TJ Spyke 08:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• DeleteNo assertion of notability, no references. The burden is on the creator, not the reader. --killing sparrows 13:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, fails WP:N. -Seinfreak37 17:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 21:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and WP:A. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deerfield-Windsor School Spring Musical

Deerfield-Windsor School Spring Musical (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Not a notable topic. Nearly every High School has a annual musical. Sean Martin 19:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Delete per nom. DMacks 21:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 21:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The article is only days old, and the deletion nomination appears to be premature. The article also appears to have someone who is very interested in the topic and willing to improve it, and, according to WP:ORG: "Organizations whose activities are local in scope are usually not notable unless verifiable information from reliable independent sources can be found." When you're holding your spring musical in the 965-seat Albany Municipal Auditorium in Albany, Georgia, with parents putting together the scenery, and with a daily newspaper in town, I think it's extremely probable that the creator of the article or someone else can provide reliable independent sources, probably from the local newspaper. Noroton 22:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. This article is putting the cart before the horse given that Wikipedia doesn't have an article about the Deerfield-Windsor School, so I'm not sure why we would put in an article about a single activity at the school first. In my experience, general newspapers tend to give minimal coverage, at best, to high school theater, so I will wait to actually see the reliable independent sources before giving the article credit for them. --Metropolitan90 00:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Noroton and renominate later. Rjgodoy 11:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N and WP:A. There's no source and not even a hint of an assertion of notability. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and rename 'Deerfield-Windsor School' - This article would probably be more notable if it was about the entire school and not just the musicals. After that, if the article still does not satisfy notability guidelines, then it should be renominated for deletion. Camaron1 | Chris 20:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Griffith University Student Representative Council

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Unsourced and non-notable ➪HiDrNick! 06:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOT Hornandsoccer^Talk 18:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 21:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, can't say it better than the nom. Noroton 21:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - student unions have no inherent notability and none is sourced here. TerriersFan 22:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beth Shields Middle School

Beth Shields Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Non-notable middle school, one of over a hundred middle and elementary school stubs put up by the editor over 14 months ago, no substantive edits since. Fails WP:ATT, no real prospect of the article ever being sourced or improved. Some articles in the bunch have already failed AfDs. Article was prodded today, and the prod was immediately removed by an anon IP with no reason beyond "Please take to AfD." I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason with the same deleted prod:

Charlie Walker Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

More might be added, I have a feeling.  RGTraynor  15:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete with the exception of the street address, the article isn't even about the school, it's about the teacher the school is named after. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete both per nom. Both schools should show reasons for notability. --Dennisthe2 18:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to Hillsborough County Public Schools. No third-party sources cited nor found in a quick search. While there's no consensus on school-notability policy, most proposals have agreed on redirecting unsourced school-stubs to the articles on their school district or community. Barno 19:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 00:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Particularly NN--article is about the person the school was named after.DGG 02:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep James Madison Middle School. I object to these schools being listed together. Nardman1 03:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: And your reason for so doing is ... ? RGTraynor 03:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete All or Redirect All per nom. --Butseriouslyfolks 04:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - At this late in the AfD, I am of the opinion that anything further should get its own AfD, rather than adding them in. As such, we might also put James Madison into its own? --Dennisthe2 16:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• If you prefer, feel free.  RGTraynor  17:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• I have a few minutes before clocking in. =) --Dennisthe2 18:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect and Delete all of the articles. These stubs have sat around getting stale long enough. In the future, can we get a bunch together either by school district or at least a bunch that the same creator spawned? I think that would be easier all around. Noroton 21:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
  • It would probably be more appropriate to do this by district, just to simplify the classifications - theoretically, in one shot, the articles get their redirects. --Dennisthe2 23:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
    • I prodded about fifty middle schools that this particular creator established; so far only three have been forced to AfD, and I'm hoping we can just avoid a lot of AfDs and see most of them get Speedied at the end of five days. I'm seeing a lot less consensus for the inherent non-notability of high schools, however, so I won't touch the rest of his stubs. That being said, there are a lot of middle schools in Wikipedia, locatable through categories, so anyone who wants to try a clean sweep is encouraged.  RGTraynor  02:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
      • I guess we'll just let the prods go through. As for the other ones... hooboy, that's gonna be a mess to clean up. --Dennisthe2 03:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of university libraries

List of university libraries (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Wikipedia is not a mere collections of internal links, bordering on linkcruft. Almost all universities have libraries and the article does not discriminate between particularly noteable and non-notable libraries (this has been mentioned on the article's talkpage). On top of that, a portion of the links are redlinks at this point. Hence, I'm thinking delete.Seed 2.0 13:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• This list is probably better served by Category:Academic libraries. Some of the individual libraries at these universities are notable for their rare collections, but a category is more maintainable than a list. (By the way, anything that's in the list that isn't in the category should be added to the category.) --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

For the record: I think that's an excellent suggestion. -- Seed 2.0 23:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as per the above suggestion of Category:Academic libraries. Bearian 23:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Rebecca 01:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment This is not a vote, please provide a reason. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 07:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 00:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Every university has a library. Most of them will be notable enough for articles of their own. Some will not, but should at least be mentioned in the article on the school--if they had a distinctive name, as even the minor ones generally do, that would be a redirect. But if we use only a category how do we get the minor ones into the category? This is one of the advantages of a list--it can include logically related but relatively non-important material. DGG 01:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

  Comment. No offense, but not every school's library is deserving of an article on WP. That's exactly my point. WP is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. Honestly, I'd prefer not to rehash WP:Categories vs lists and WP:Categories, lists, and series boxes because we've done that about a million times. I'm okay with editing and adding (where appropriate) this list to Category:Academic libraries but that obviously doesn't make every school's library immune to WP:NN. -- Seed 2.0 02:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete and reorganize in sections I looked at the article again, and it is a very incomplete and erratic list--too much so to be useful.

For the US, it gives a small number of universities only, and for most of the few included it lists some of their many campus libraries. In a few cases the individual subject libraries are notable, such as the Avery Architectural and Fine Arts Library at Columbia, but almost all subject branches would not justify an article any more than most university buildings would. So this part is not convertible into a category under its current conception--but it could equally well be argued that it is not needed, since the libraries could be grouped by University in appropriate articles.

For Europe, it usually lists one library per university, even when there are several, and this part could be handled by a category; most European universities do not have major subject branch libraries.

For Australia, it lists many libraries per university, almost none having articles.

For Asia, it mostly groups them by country and lists very very few.

It would take work to make this a useful list, but it could be done. if handled by category, it would take enormously more work to make all the stub articles needed and this could not immediately be done. A manageable alternative would be separate lists per country or per continent, with them worked on in their different appropriate ways. I've userified it; if deleted, I can quickly start new & better lists for people to work on. if it is kept, the various people interested could work on improving it section by section. DGG 03:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Categorify per Bearian and WP:NOT#DIR. --Butseriouslyfolks 04:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Categorise, if not delete per Bearian. List is unmaintainable and there are 100,000+ universities around the world that has libraries. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 07:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of the Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila degree programs

List of the Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila degree programs (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Contested prod. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. J Milburn 10:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as above, per WP:NOT. Besides, this is already covered in more encyclopedic form over at Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 00:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Andrew Lenahan. --Butseriouslyfolks 04:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Primary education in Jamaica

Primary education in Jamaica (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

AFD tag was put on the article on 27 February by Nerd23rd (talk • contribs), but it was never listed here. Nerd23rd's edit summary stated: "content and history moved to Education in Jamaica so as to use only [one] page whereas a few pages are now used for the various levels of education in JA" The content has indeed been merged into Education in Jamaica. jwillbur^talk 17:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep; restore merge until there's more content here. Since content was moved to another page, at this page should be kept per the GFDL (or have a history merge done). It's an appropriate topic for Wikipedia, IMO. Guettarda 19:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 00:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Merge to Education in Jamaica - is the parent article so long that there needs to be another article with only two paragraphs? Baristarim 04:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and Merge as per Guettarda. It certainly sounds like an appropriate topic which should be expanded later. In the meantime, merge and preserve the article history. Noroton 21:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This topic is covered by Education in Jamaica. If that article gets too long, this article can be re-created. --Richard 05:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of schools in Jamaica

List of schools in Jamaica (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

Finishing up the AFD process started by Nerd23rd (talk • contribs): AFD tag was put on the article on 27 February by Nerd23rd, but it was never listed here. Nerd23rd's edit summary stated: "in an attempt to merge content into more comprehensive article Education in Jamaica" The content was merged into Education in Jamaica, but later reverted [2]. jwillbur^talk 17:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep and clean up - this topic is appropriate for Wikipedia. Guettarda 19:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Suitable for Wikipedia. Lists are one of the great things about Wiki! Xanucia 22:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 00:32, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Make Category as list is maintenance burden and will likely never be complete. Also per WP:NOT#DIR. --Butseriouslyfolks 04:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment needs clean-up: formatting, sorting. -- User:Docu