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The peer review department of the Rugby union WikiProject conducts peer review of articles on request. The primary objective is to encourage better articles by having contributors who may not have worked on articles to examine them and provide ideas for further improvement.

The peer review process is highly flexible and can deal with articles of any quality; however, requesting reviews on very short articles may not be productive, as there is little for readers to comment on. All reviews are conducted by fellow editors—usually members of the Rugby union WikiProject.

Contents 1 Instructions 1.1 Requesting a review 1.2 Responding to a request 1.3 Archiving 2 Requests 2.1 London Wasps 2.1.1 Shudda's review 2.2 GordyB 2.3 Goldman 2.4 Rugby union at the Summer Olympics 2.4.1 Shudda's review 2.5 Keven Mealamu 2.5.1 Shudda's review 2.5.2 Cvene's review 2.6 Rugby union 3 Archives

[edit] Instructions

[edit] Requesting a review

1. Add peer-review=yes to the {{WikiProject Rugby union}} project banner at the top of the article's talk page (see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax).
2. From there, click on the "request has been made" link that appears in the template. This will open a page to discuss the review of your article.
3. Place === [[Name of nominated article]] === at the top.
4. Below it, write your reason for nominating the article and sign by using four tildes (~~~~).
5. Add {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Peer review/Name of nominated article}} at the top of the list of requests on this page.
6. Add [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Peer review/Name of nominated article|Name of nominated article]] under the peer review section of the {{WPRU Announcements}} template.

If an article is listed for a second (or third, and so forth) peer review:

1. Move the existing peer review subpage (Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Peer review/Name of nominated article) to an archive (Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby unionPeer review/Name of nominated article/Archive 1).
2. Follow the instructions for making a request above (editing the primary page, which will be a redirect to the archive, into a new request page).
3. Be sure to provide a prominent link to the last archive at the top of the request (e.g. "Prior peer review here.").

[edit] Responding to a request

Everyone is encouraged to comment on any request listed here. To comment on an article, please add a new section (using ==== [[User:Your name|Your name]] ====) for your comments, in order to keep multiple responses legible.

[edit] Archiving

Reviews should be archived after they have been inactive for four weeks, or when the article is nominated as a featured article candidate. To archive a review:

1. Replace peer-review=yes with old-peer-review=yes in the {{WikiProject Rugby union}} project banner template at the top of the article's talk page
2. Move {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Peer review/Name of nominated article}} from this page to the current archive page.

[edit] Requests

[edit] London Wasps

I've added a peer review request in order to get feedback on what the article needs to push up it's class.... Murkee 11:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shudda's review

I think you should look at some WP:FA and WP:GA quality rugby union team articles for help on getting this to a higher standard, for example Crusaders (rugby). Anyway, specific advise:

• Expand the lead as per WP:LEAD (you prob want to do this after having done everything else).
• Expand the history section 1968-1994.
• Add references to the history section, it's seriously lacking here. (Added fact check template - Murkee)
• Convert what external links you have in the text to inline citations.
• The stadia section needs a copy-edit. It's currently a bunch of paragraphs that are a sentence or two.
• Please add some sort of key, or footnotes to explain the international column of the current squad section. I understand what U19, 7's and A mean, but others may not.
• Add a notable players section, but make sure it's de-listed. Maybe discuss how this should be composed on the talk page (see Crusaders (rugby) and All Blacks for inspiration).
• Wasps abroad? Whats that about? It should be explained or removed (i don't know what it is about at all). (Edit: Attempt made to address this - Murkee)
• Director of rugby - is that the same as coach? This should have an introductory paragraph, and if it is the same as coach should be expanded and completed.

Thats all I have at the moment, hope it helps! - Shudda ^talk 04:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GordyB

• I removed the 'See also' section as it is inappropraite to link to a userbox template. < DONE
• I suggest you tidy up the 'Supporters abroad' section as bits of it aren't grammatical. < DONE (I think)
• The history section can be expanded, there is a website that I added to the project mainpage called 'Nobok', IIRC they have a history of Wasps article.GordyB 15:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goldman

• Expand the section on stadiums
• Create a section on colours/logos/kits
• Create a section on rivals/traditions/etc (eg. London double headers)
• Fill in all the ^{[citation needed]}, as it looks messy. Greatly expand the earlier histories. Goldman07 02:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby union at the Summer Olympics

Users at WP:RU would like feedback on the article to get it to FA status. It has had two previous peer reviews and is currently listed as a good article. Cheers. Cvene64 08:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shudda's review

My thoughts:

• Lead needs to be expanded as per WP:LEAD
• In the 1900 section, does not explain how the France team is selected? Was is a representative team, or a club side that won the right to compete for their country. Also, how did the Frankfurt club and Mosley Wanderers RFC come to represent their respective countries.
• Also, are their match reports for the games?
• Why was it not played in 1904 and 1906?
• What was the RFU's involvement in 1908?
• Is there more information that can be given about the 1908 game?
• Why was the sport not included in 1912?
• Did the american team in 1920 ask to compete? Were they asked themselves?
• Why did Czechoslovakia and Romania withdraw?
• Any other info on the 1920 match.
• Can you say who installed France as 20-1 favourites?
• Can you expand on the game?
• I've read about the 1924 match before, can more be said about the French media's reaction, rather then just one sentence.
• The 1936 thing is interesting. Can more be said about the matches? Is there a wiki-link to exhibition match. If not, please include more details.
• I think the info regarding the 1976 boycott can be expanded.
• There is not much about all the reasons for rugby being turned down for inclusion. It's been requested many times, but turned down every time. Why is this?
• Apart from that, just general things. Seems to be several types of English used. Organization?
• References seems fine.
• For FA, would need more images.

Hope this helps. - Shudda ^talk 10:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Keven Mealamu

Some details of his 2005 and 2006 seasons added. Breandán Dalton 12:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shudda's review

My thoughts:

• Add the {{rugger}} template to the article.
• Include information on his playing for Auckland, and the Blues.

• Why is he not captain for the Blues? Are you sure about explaination, for example Richie McCaw will take over captaincy for Crusaders when he returns. So why him and not Mealamu?

• Include information on his background, so before he started playing first class rugby.

• His schooling, his family, did he have a job before rugby, or has he only ever been a professional player?

• More references need to be added.
• Expand info on his All Blacks career, esp regarding reconditioning squad.
• An image, preferably free, should be included in the article.

- Shudda ^talk 08:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cvene's review

• There is not much written about his RWC03 selection. Cvene64 08:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby union

Think needs another peer review so that the project members can decide what needs to be done to get this article up to Featured Article standard. - Shudda ^talk 04:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Even just by scanning it I can tell it need a heck of a lot more references.Buc 11:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Why does it need "a heck of a lot more references" just for the sake of it? A great deal of the article discusses the rules of the game. In so doing, it references the official rules of the game. There are no other more appopriate references. Sometimes the citation mania in this place makes my head spin. As if multiple citations is the only proof of quality. --Mat Hardy (Affentitten) 02:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

• • No it needs them as proof of statements made in the article. Wikipedia:No original research will explain it for you. Buc 21:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

• The biggest problem is confusion, there has been a peer review or two in the past, and some people have complained that the article does is not coherant enough for the average person. I suggest breaking off Game laws and methods (except Players and officials and Playing field) into Game laws and methods of rugby union, and then writing a shorter more succinct overview of the Game laws and methods that everyone can understand, At present there are a million subsections. See this comment from an FAC.
• The article also needs better use of images and their descriptions.
• Also, merge Attire into Equipment.
• Merge Possible alterations to the laws into Game laws and methods.
• History needs re-writing, which I have outlined on the talk page.
• Major international tournaments should be turned into one section such as "Notable competitions" to include club-regions etc.
• Rugby coaching can be mentioned in Game laws and methods.
• External links is too long.
• Basically I propose to massively shorten the article to make it clearer and neater. Cvene64 04:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archives

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