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Created page for 2007 Churchill Cup. The competition is special this year, as it will be the first time it's played outside North America (tickets are still on sale as of March 2007). The article needs expansion. National Division One 2006-07 has been created and need expansion, see also National Division One, {{2006-07 National Division One Teams}} and {{2006-07 National Division One Table}} London Double Header pages have been created and need expansion List of All Black tours and series has been created and needs expansion. Crusaders (rugby) has been promoted to Feature Article status. The template {{National rugby union}} for use on Union and Federation pages has been created The Project's Article style guide has been amended to exclude fixture lists in national rugby teams' articles . A work group; Fiji Rugby, has been created. A peer review department has been created for the project. Please submit any articles needing review to the department.
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Contents 1 To do 1.1 As promised: TfD nomination of redundant templates 2 Remaining: 3 Please check out the sandbox 4 Project Template 5 Collaboration of the fortnight, and the project's momentum 6 Rugby union positions 7 Position templates 8 Lets finish off the remaining IRB member nations: 9 Six Nations Championship 10 World Cup 11 Template mess 12 RWC07 nations need work 13 Crusaders article on main page 14 Collaboration of the Fortnight 15 Unofficial Rugby World Cup 16 New collaboration of the fortnight 17 Peer reviews 18 Link spam 19 Heineken Cup finals 20 training structure, centre 21 Waisale Serevi 22 Category needs to be created

[edit] To do

JAPAN:

• B: Yuji Sonoda, Takashi Tsuji, Andrew Miller, Keiji Hirose, Toru Kurihara, Hirotoki Onozawa, Yukio Motoki, Reuben Parkinson, Hideki Namba, George Konia, Daisuke Ohata, Junichi Hojyo, Tsutomu Matsuda, Takashi Yoshida.

• F: Shin Hasegawa, Masahito Yamamoto, Masaaki Sakata, Masao Amino, Masahiko Toyoyama, Ryo Yamamura, Koichi Kubo, Hajime Kiso, Hiroyuki Tanuma, Adam Parker, Yasunori Watanabe, Naoya Okubo, Takuro Miuchi (captain), Ryota Asano, Takeomi Ito, Yuya Saito.

NAMIBIA

• B: Vincent Dreyer, Jurie Booysen, Melrick Africa, Deon Mouton, Corne Powell, Du Preez Grobler, Regardt Kruger, Rudie van Vuuren, Morné Schreuder, Ronaldo Pedro, Hakkies Hüsselman, Emile Wessels, Desmond Snyders, Niel Swanepoel.

• F: Neil du Toit, Johan Jenkins, Kees Lensing, Janne du Toit, Shaun va Roooi, JM Meyer, Heino Senekal, Phillipus Isaacs, Eben Isaacs, Corneil van Tonder, Schalk van der Merwe, Herman Lintvelt, Sean Furter (captain), Jurgens van Lill, Archie Graham, Andrew Blaauw.

ROMANA

• B: Dan Dumbrava, Mihai Vioreanu, Cristian Sauan, Ioan Teodorescu, Vasile Ghioc, Gabriel Brezoianu, Bogdan Voicu, Romeo Gontineac (captain), Valentin Maftei, Ionut Togan, Lucian Sirbu, Iulian Andrei, Cristian Podea.M/p>

• F: Marius Niculai, Bogdan Tudor, Marian Tudori, Ovidiu Tonita, George Chiriac, Cornel Tatu, Cristian Petre, Sorin Socol, Augustin Petreichei, Marius Pantelimon, Petrisor Toderasc, Marcel Socaciu, Ioin Paulica, Cezar Popescu, Silviu Florea, Petru Balan, Razvan Mavrodin.

GEORGIA

• B: Badri Khekhelashvili, Archil Kavtarashvili, Irakli Modebadze, Irakli Machkhaneli, Otar Eloshvili, Merab Kvirikashvili, Irakli Giorgadze, Gocha Khonelidze, Irakli Abuseridze, Paliko Jimsheladze, Besik Khamashuridze, Tedo Zibzibadze, Malkhaz Urjukashvili, Vasil Katsadze.

• F: Gregoire Yachvili, Georgi Chkhaidze, Irakli Gundishvili, Goderdzi Shvelidze, Vano Nadiradze, Georgi Tsiklauri, Gia Labadze, Ioseb Nikolaenko, Akvsenti Giorgadze, Avtandil Kopaliani, Davit Dadunashvili, Alexandre Margvelashvili, Davit Bolgashvili, Ilia Zedginidze, Viktor Didebulidze, Zurab Mchedlishvili.

URUGUAY

• B: Emiliano Caffera, Juan Campomar, Bernardo Amarillo, Sebastian Aguirre, Martin Mendaro, Diego Aguirre, Joaquin de Freitas, Diego Reyes, Alfonso Cardoso, Emiliano Ibarra, Joaquin Pastore, Carlos Baldasarri, Juan Menchaca, Jose Viana.

• F: Eduardo Berruti, Diego Lamelas, Juan Andres Perez, Rodrigo Sanchez, Guillermo Storace, Pablo Lemoine, Juan Machado, Juan Miguel Alvarez, Juan Alzueta, Juan Carlos Bado, Marcelo Gutierrez, Hernan Ponte, Nicolas Grille, Rodrigo Capo, Nicolas Brignoni, Ignacio Conti.

[edit] As promised: TfD nomination of redundant templates

Template:Rugby Team infobox, template:National rugby team, Template:Invitational rugby team and Template:Super 14 team have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Bob 16:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remaining:

Bolded ones have been updated, please check for accuracy.

Celtic League

Guinness Premiership

Top 14

Pro D2

Super 14

Air New Zealand Cup

BT Premiership Division One

BT Premiership Division Two

Super 10

Rugby Super League

North America 4

National teams

• Vanuatu
• Solomon Islands
• Papua New Guinea
• Jamaica
• Bermuda (kit)
• Ukraine (kit)
• Slovenia (kit)
• Malta (kit)
• Lithuania (kit)
• Latvia (kit)
• Hungary (kit)
• Finland
• Denmark (kit)
• Czech Republic
• Armenia
• Saint Lucia
• Barbados (kit)
• Bahamas
• Kazakhstan
• Brazil
• Peru
• Botswana
• Kenya
• Tunisia

National Division One

• Cornish Pirates
• Doncaster R.F.C.
• Exeter Chiefs
• Leeds Tykes
• London Welsh R.F.C.
• Moseley Rugby Football Club
• Newbury R.F.C.
• Nottingham R.F.C.
• Otley R.U.F.C.
• Birmingham & Solihull R.F.C.
• Plymouth Albion R.F.C.
• Rotherham R.U.F.C.
• Sedgley Park R.U.F.C.
• Waterloo R.F.C.

Currie Cup

• Griquas
• Leopards
• Natal Sharks
• Pumas
• Border Bulldogs
• Mighty Elephants
• Free State Cheetahs
• Griffons
• Boland Cavaliers
• Eagles
• Western Province
• Falcons
• Golden Lions
• Blue Bulls

[edit] Please check out the sandbox

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Sandbox

I have been wanting to start this article for ages. Feel free to check it out and make some changes. Cheers. Cvene64 04:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Template

Should we, as a group, have a template for our user pages to identify us as the protectors of all things Rugby (and yes, I do mean Rugby Union)?

Rowlan 15:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, potential members will then see the template and may later sign up.GordyB 10:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• Agree it's a good idea. To kick it off (sorry for the pun), I'll suggest a userbox and post details here. Nelson50 11:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Done. Made a userbox for us. Add "User WikiProject Rugby union" (Between double curly brackets) to your box list. I used the pictogram as a variation to a rugby ball as logos from the IRB would infringe copyright. It does use IRB colours, though. Nelson50 15:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• • Nice...I've added it to my page! Thanks for doing the work on that. Now let them flock to us, right?

Rowlan 21:48, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• • • I've edited it to a Rugby Ball image I drew Myself, While "Similar" to the IRB Logo's it doesn't infringe copyright and I think it looks better than the Purple Spheroid. Stabilo boss 00:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• • • • Nice job!Nelson50 11:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• • • • • Again I've updated this Image for use on Wiki, the old one was a bit Dated and this is used on a lot of Pages.

[edit] Collaboration of the fortnight, and the project's momentum

I am wondering what everyone is thinking about the current amount of momentum, or 'energy' within the project? I have a few concerns about the project, including:

• The collaboration of the fortnight, and lack of activity.
• The number of new members, seem to not be getting many active new participants.
• The peer review department. This is getting very little support, very little comments.
• Announcements, and news. Very little seems to be added here.

My biggest concern is the collaboration of the fortnight, as this seems like the best way to get everyone working together to get an article up to a high standard. I'm wondering if anyone has any comments on any of these things. Especially, I'm interested in any ideas about how to increase the activity of the project. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. - Shudda ^talk 04:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I too have been conerned about the WikiProject and have been holding back the following suggestion for some time - recruit members from Rugby union forums. It could work or could increase vandal rates. Any way we need some new blood.----Hamedog_Talk|^@ 03:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Its not a bad idea. I believe some other projects do it, so why not? There would be heaps of people out there that could help out. Cvene64 04:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we should definitely do something. I created a welcome template {{RugbyWelcome}} ages ago, which I've been using (so has cometstyles). Also, we may get some ideas from other projects, for example WikiProject Military history has an Outreach department! I don't know if we need anything that fancy, but something should be done. - Shudda ^talk 22:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I have created a welcome template for new participants in the project. It's used as follows:

{{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Welcome|~~~~}}

I think it'll be good for new users, gives them a good overview of the project. - Shudda ^talk 05:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby union positions

This article has always included notable players in each position. This has got out of hand with players continually being added that are merely good or in some cases actually obscure. I suggest that we remove them all and merely add players that are in the IRB Hall of Fame. To discuss this further go to Talk:Rugby union positions.GordyB 20:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Position templates

I was thinking about creating templates for use in the bio articles that would link directly to RU positions instead of using a complicated link. For instance, instead of using [[Rugby_union_positions#14._and_11._Wing|Wing]] etc, we could just use {{wing}}, and it will directly link to the section within Rugby union positions. Then, if there is any change to the order/format of that article, or if subarticles were created describing each position, it would be much easier to redirect fifteen templates rather than hundreds of articles. The two I have created thus far can be seen at Serge Blanco in the infobox. --Bob 00:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Very good. I didn't know such a thing was possible.GordyB 11:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I just introduced a parameter for capitalising the first letter if required. I do think that this would make it easier if there were ever a change in the positions article. It should also make it easier to link to the subsection when creating articles on players. They can all be found here --Bob 02:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I didn't know that was possible either. Really good idea. Would you be able to create links for the alternative names as well, such as first-five eighth etc. Thanks. - Shudda ^talk 09:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. If I have missed any, list them here and I will get them done. I have introduced parameters for variations within the templates. ie. if you want scrum-halves, type yes in the plural template. eg {{scrum-half|plural=yes}}. If you want it plural and capitalised, then add in the capital parameter. For the words that don't have a change in the spelling for plural, ie wing/flanker/lock, just add in an s after the template. In the case of No. 8, 1st 5/8 and 2nd 5/8, if you want the short form (No. 8) instead of the spely out form (number 8), simply add in the short parameter eg. {{number 8|short=yes}}. How does this sound? --Bob 16:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah this is really good! Have you added this to the templates section of the project? Or the Project's style guide? It may be a good idea as I can see this stuff getting lost, or being hard to find for new people. - Shudda ^talk 02:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Very good work lads, keep it up. Just a quick question, what names do we pick? No because, 1st 5/8 or 2nd 5/8 doesn't mean squat if you are form the northern hemisphere. :-) Saebhiar Adishatz 10:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Depends on the article, if it is a New Zealand article then you would use the New Zealand terms. Depends what country. Because they are wiki-linked then if people aren't familiar with the term can find out what they mean. So it depends on the subject of the article, but whatever term is most common in that country. - Shudda ^talk 10:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lets finish off the remaining IRB member nations:

It really wont take very long:

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Goldman07 (talk • contribs).

You mean create the pages? - Shudda ^talk 23:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a big fan of very small minnows having pages at all. What is to say other than Kazakstan has a rugby team but they aren't very good.GordyB 23:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. Harsh but fair GordyB. Still, little info is better than nothing. к1иgf1$н£я5ω1fт 13:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, Kazakstan is a member of the IRB and ARFU, which (in my opnion) qualifies them as notbale. They have even competed in Rugby World Cup qualifying tournaments, which beyond doubt makes them notable. All IRB members should have their pages. Maybe, I get your point on nations like Cyprs and so on that have only played a game or two and are not members, but IRB member nations very much deserve a page. Goldman07 11:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It is not a question of notability, I once put the Indian rugby union team up for deletion and it survived easily. The ruling was that rugby union is a major sport and the national team of any country is notable even if they would be beaten by a team of English schoolgirls. I personally think that Wikipedia would be better off without so many articles on obscure topics but the powers that be beg to differ.GordyB 09:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Six Nations Championship

I recently nominated this for GA, but it just missed the cut (see the articles talk page). The main problem is there are no references. Can someone with more computer knowledge than me send a bot to do some ^{[citation needed]} tags, so we can sort this out and repromote it to the status it deserves? Cheers, к1иgf1$н£я5ω1fт 13:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think a bot does that. If you like, people can go through and tag everything that needs a reference, it will look like a mess though. The page is far too long and listy to be a GA. But it is getting there. Cvene64 08:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

On the cricket project we've been having a mass improvement to coincide with the world cup, and someone mentioned Smackbot doing some tagging, but I'm not sure! Cheers, к1иgf1$н£я5ω1fт 18:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup

The WC is currently a FA article, but it really really needs a little collaboration from WP:RU for language, references (a lot) and a general copyedit to ensure noone nominates it for a FARC review. It would be a real shame if it were demoted in a WC year! Cvene64 08:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I've added a few references where I can. Someone else can do the copy-edit, I'm not so good at that (unless it's bloody obvious). Can you please give a short list of things you believe need references. I've only added a couple of things at the moment. - Shudda ^talk 06:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• I just added some more stuff to the rules description, hope it is all good info. I think the trophy section needs expansion, I would do it, but to be honest, I don't really understand the history of it, could someone clarify this? Its kind of confusing. The hosts section could do with a little work also - it seems a bit "trivia-ish" in some areas. I think tournament point scorers should be added to the main page also. And yer. There is nothing about the opening ceremony either. Hope this helps. Goldman07 15:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template mess

We need to review the current template situation. It is my view that there are far too many trying to cover far too many topics. Just look at this Super_14#External_links...what am I meant to use to navigate here?? IMO...Rugby in... templates should not try to cover so much...for example, Rugby in SA should only be on Rugby union in South Africa, Springboks, Currie Cup, Vodacom Cup and Super 14...not on Bulls, Sharks etc. There should be ONE Super 14 template (that is not hidden) that covers all Super 14, there is no need for the champions template either. Also, I think only Rugby in.. templates should be hidden....And...The template covering the national teams is a bit much as well...it should be broken up into Europe, Oceania etc. Cheers Cvene64 07:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There are far fewer templates than on other articles. Rugby in SA includes the Super 14 teams, to state that they are not part of the SA rugby scene is bizarre. National teams in and rugby union in are, IMHO, fine as is. I can link to the USA from Germany using this. The only one that I could agree with is that the super rugby and SANZAR rugby are redundant. Merging these two should be fine. --Bob 05:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I originally created the SANZAR template out of the old Super 12 template. There were far fewer articles back then and no other templates for the SANZAR countries. It doesn't work so well now and IMO should be retired.GordyB 09:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Well, maybe it is just me then. But IMO the rugby articles look really shit compared to soccer and league in terms of organisation. Of course SA franchises are apart of rugby in SA, but how many freakin templates do there have to be?? SA franchises are apart of the S14 first and foremost, thus, that should be the navigation. Its even worse that all of them are hidden as well, which is just frustrating. There is no need to pile everything into one template, and then have three others below it. As for going from USA to Germany, whats the point? If we go by that rationale, then we should just have links to everything in Category:Rugby union. USA and Ger don't really play eachother, so its just silly. USA play other American teams, which is why it makes sense for nations to have regional templates, not one huge one. Even rugby league has this sorted out, why cant we? Sorry, but the use of templates on rugby pages just really annoys me. Its very poorly set out and very very cluttered. Its bad enough for me, but what about the poor fellas who dont know much about wikipedia? Kind of defeats the templates purpose if it is such a mess that noone navigation is dificult. Again, sorry for ranting, but I think the whole thing needs changing. Cvene64 09:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, the categories are there for the benfit of editors rather than users. As for the megatemplate I agree with you, at one time I removed the teams that had never even played in a World Cup. How many people really need a short-cut to the Algerian national team?

Re: your proposed regional solution, it is a good one but I think we would get bogged down in detail again. The Africa template really only needs South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Ivory Coast (and not necessarily all those teams), the leaguies got it right by keeping it simple.GordyB 10:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that the templates do need to be cleaned up, and ideas are good. However I don't want to make the mistake of us deciding on good rugby countries and bad ones. Let the IRB decide that. Having only regional ones, or having a Tier One and Two template, and then a Tier Three one may be a better idea? - Shudda ^talk 10:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I think regions works better than tiers, NH and SH countries don't play in the same competitions (other than WC) so what connects Italy with South Africa? Not a lot.GordyB 16:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The Top Tier nations and Second Tier nations do play each other fairly regularly in the mid-year and end-of-year Tests. So Italy and South Africa would meet much more regularly then say South Africa and Namibia. - Shudda 23:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

However, Namibian rugby has been influenced a lot by that in South Africa, including having Namibian sides in the Currie Cup. Portugal and Uruguay have just completed playing a series against one another and then we have Japan, virtually isolated in Asia. Ivory Coast has had a team at the world cup, but Morocco has been doing better than them recently. Most articles do not have template clutter, and the few, such as the Super 14 and Rugby Union Tri Nations, can be cleaned up by using just one template like we do in the Six Nations Championship and Heineken Cup --Bob 15:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Shudda, just today I looked at the template page and saw the blank link to Tier 1 template, and so filled in the blank (though I did think at the time, 'why link to a template which doesn't exist - as it won't be being used somewhere'. Personally, I'd rather have several smaller templates that play nice when used together, than one bigger template. I.e. on the overview pages we may use tier 1 2 and 3, instead of the existing overview, but on other pages JUST the tier 1, 2 or 3 could be used if required. I also think that any league tables, or data that changes regularly, should be templated, so they can be used wherever is relevant, e.g. English Rugby Union Leagues Murkee 17:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

.... or possibly a cleverer 'show me everything' template with options, i.e. the default would be just to show the 'main' unions, one could pass parameters to say 'tier 1 only', 'tier 2 only', 'tier 2 and above', 'tier 3 only', 'tier 3 and above' etc. Is this possible? Murkee 07:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It is... and it could possibly cut down on the number of templates that exit.... just by using optional parameters. I could do it next week if people want (can't at the moment... too much work)... I think a standard color scheme would also go a long way to improving the templates. What color do people want rugby templates to be? Personally, I like the undrstated grey/white templates used in the bio/team/venue boxes. --Bob 14:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Give it a go Bob - it sounds like a decent idea. Grey/white is ok, though maybe that standard sky blue could look good as well? Goldman07 06:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RWC07 nations need work

• Namibia and the Pacific sides really really need some sort of collaboration!! Goldman07 04:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Very little is available online about the Pacific sides, unless some has been added in the last couple of years. Virtually nothing is written about Pacific rugby in England and there are no project members from Pacific countries. Namibia is even more obscure.GordyB 09:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thats not true. There is quite a bit of information out there on Pacific rugby. Also there is at least one Pacific Islander that's a Project member (User:Cometstyles). There is even a Fiji work group (WikiProject Rugby union/Fiji). I have been working on the Waisale Serevi article lately, and the fact that he is Fijian has not been a problem. Anyway the point is that people can contribute to Pacific Island rugby articles. I'm not so sure about Namibia though; havn't looked into that. - Shudda ^talk 09:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

If people try they can easily expand these articles. Even by going through a list of results I have made out decent history sections. History, player, stats and everything else can easily be expanded upon of Tonga/Samoa/Namibia. For example, why not have a WC competition record? Its good info and adds a bit to the article. Cvene64 10:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It's much easier to find player information than information on a national team or club for some reason. If you have access to information that I cannot find then I'd be greatful if you could expand Pacific Tri-Nations, I simply cannot find the winners of some tournamments on the internet.GordyB 18:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crusaders article on main page

Hey. Please read this everyone. I need people to spend a couple of minutes reading over my main page request for the Crusaders here. Can people check for grammar and spelling. Also double check facts (they should be fine). I'm not asking for a silly edit war or anything about a trivial point, but spelling & grammar etc I am paranoid about so please look at that. Although it's not a vote, adding some support may be worthwhile if you want the article mainpaged also. cheers. - Shudda ^talk 10:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration of the Fortnight

Hey, the current collaboration has been inactive for a while. There have been a number of nominations recently. Please take a look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Collaboration of the fortnight page and vote if you are interested in helping out with a particular article. Also if you have an article you want help with, nominate it there. - Shudda ^talk 23:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unofficial Rugby World Cup

This is a biggie. I've been reading about the Unofficial Football World Championships, and wonder what the equivalent would be in Rugby. If the first holders of the title were the winners of the first world cup, then it's a relatively small (but still significant) job. If we take it from the first international, then it's a huge job. I wouldn't know where to start - but I'd love to know the result! Who is the Unofficial Rugby World Champion? Murkee 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The point of the article is that the phrase Unofficial Football World Championships existed before the article did. If you have to invent the phrase to justify an article then it isn't notable.GordyB 19:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The article used to exist (the answer is Wales) but was deleted in December last year. Saebhiar Adishatz 21:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought I remembered seeing it.GordyB 21:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

It won't be Wales anymore.... or so I thought. A quick glance of the 6N results seem to show that Wales reclaimed it from England Murkee 21:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The article was deleted. Prob not worth creating again because would be deleted again. - Shudda ^talk 22:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New collaboration of the fortnight

France national rugby union team is now the collaboration of the fortnight. The French language Wikipedia article on the France team is a featured article so we hope to get the English language one to the same standard. Please contribute where you can. Also, I have raised the issue of voting numbers for the collaboration of the fortnight on it's talk page here. Currently three support votes are needed and opposing votes do not count. Contribute your views at the talk page. Thanks. - Shudda ^talk 23:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer reviews

There are several articles that have been nominated for a peer review. The Projects peer-review page can be accessed with the short cut WP:RUPR. Could people please review some of these articles! They can be directly accessed from the {{WPRU Announcements}} template (that's at the top of the page). Currently some of the articles have not been reviewed by anyone, and those that have it's only been one or two people. Please please can people help review some of these articles?!? Thanks. - Shudda ^talk 04:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link spam

itsrugby.com is everywhere. This is a particular poor website with very little content (and not always in English either) yet it is in the external links of many pages. I have been removing it where I see it. I suspect that somebody connected with the site keeps adding it to Wikipedia. If you see it please delete it.GordyB 15:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how, but you may be able to get a bot to trawl through wikipedia removing it from articles. - Shudda ^talk 22:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. I've no idea either.GordyB 22:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I've cleaned out the links (except in a couple of places they were cited as sources). RJASE1 ^Talk 16:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

This link shows where the website is currently referenced if you want to replace citations with some better sources. Cheers - RJASE1 ^Talk 16:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I didn't know you could do that.GordyB 18:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heineken Cup finals

I have updated this page so that all the matches are in the {{rugbybox}} template. However, I couldn't find data for the times when points were scored in the earlier finals, so if anyone could help with that, it would be much appreciated PeeJay 21:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] training structure, centre

Please, i don't have this information : have you got in England for the national team, a structure like:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_national_du_rugby union rugby http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_technique_national_Fernand-Sastre football

?

And in this case, some source ?

Dd Ddfree 18:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Nowhere specifically for rugby but Lilleshall is used for football. See National Sports Centres. GordyB 17:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• Before a game in Twickenham Stadium, where the England national rugby union team is working, what structure England Rugby union has put in place ? or is done to better results ? Dd Ddfree 20:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Players are always described as training 'at Twickenham'. I think there are training facilities near the stadium.19:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the England rugby team does some of its training and preparation at Loughborough University. PeeJay 20:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

They do, Loughbrough is famous for its sports science. They've had some particularly good rugby coaches too. It's not entirely coincidental that Leicester Tigers are one of the top sides in Europe as they are just down the road.GordyB 22:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[news bbc] [news lions] The new-look England squad meet at Loughbrough University on Sunday for their first training session of the season. Dd Ddfree 12:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Ddfree 11:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Waisale Serevi

Hey, I have been working on Waisale Serevi for the last month (almost to the day) and I believe it could be a FA with a little work. I've looked at some of the sports related biographical FA's and I do think that we could get this article to that standard with a little work. I have nominated it for the collaboration of the fortnight, but failing that would appreciate any help. My one major problem up till this point was finding a free image of him but I've been able to do that now. There is a to-do list on the articles talk page that specifies what I think needs to be done to get the article to FA quality. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially a good copy-edit and any information on his recent career. The lead also needs to be expanded. Hopefully most of the gaps can be filled with information available online. Thanks. - Shudda ^talk 02:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category needs to be created

Category:Non-article rugby union pages is linked to by your talk page template but doesnt excist , i'd create it my self but i dont know the parent category, anyway keep up the good work from me and WP:GAA (Gnevin 23:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC))