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Wikipedia main articles: WikiPedia:WikiProject Novels, WPP:Novels, WikiPedia:WikiProject Books, and WPP:Books

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1 2004 - Sept. 2006 (Topics: Use of ISBD, Wikireader, recasting the book (related) subcategories, crime book category, Infobox Writer, new fields to book infobox, Books about film)

Contents 1 Critical reaction websites? 2 A request for the project page 3 criteria for infobox "influences"? 4 Short story collections 5 Uncategorised Books 6 {{WPBooks}} 7 cat year nav 8 Project Directory 9 Category:Uncategorised books 10 Advice wanted re: author's notability 11 Amazon template request 12 Claude Frollo 13 Discussion section for author and book articles? 14 "New books" listings on "[Year] in literature" pages 15 James Joyce 16 {{WPBooks}} 17 Uncategorised (non-fiction) book (stub)s 18 Book cover replacement project 19 Category:Uncategorised books 20 Books/works/etc. by author categories 21 Character Guidelines 22 Wikipedia Day Awards 23 RfC of Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid 24 AFD notice 25 need help placing these images of a Chinese bamboo book 26 East of Eden copyright infringements? 27 Literary criticism 28 Restoration literature FAR 29 Documents / Literature category loop 30 Vengeance: The True Story of an Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team 31 Seven Years in Tibet 32 Project Scope issues 33 Os Lusíadas could use some work 34 Special characters/typography in titles of works of art (books, etc.) 35 Literary style 36 If I Die in a Combat Zone, Box Me Up and Send Me Home 37 Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson 38 Literary criticism for comprehensiveness 39 POV list of novels 40 Archive.org 41 Encyclopædia Britannica is now a FAC 42 Book Collecting 43 Galician literature

[edit] Critical reaction websites?

Is there a aggregate data website for books? Something like Rotten Tomatoes, but obviously for a different medium. EVula 18:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A request for the project page

Would it be ok to link the discussion on the proposed notability criteria for books WP:BK on the main page of the project? I think the input from project members could really help to shape this guideline. I already put a notice on this talk page a couple of months ago and this did attract a couple of comments but putting it on the project page as something the project should look at would make sense. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 17:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] criteria for infobox "influences"?

There really need to be some clear guidelines for who to include in writers influencing and influenced by an author.

At the moment, it's totally the subjective judgment of individual editors as to who should be included.

Dybryd 22:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Short story collections

I have just read The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge and I am interested in creating an article for it. I see that the collection is already somewhat described in the Vernor Vinge article itself, but a seperate article seems appropriate to me. Looking through various articles I have seen short story collections included in the authors page and in their own pages, but with no mention of any preference or guidelines for creating these articles in WikiPedia:WikiProject Books or its child projects. Do any guidelines exist? Is anyone interesting in helping me to create a template and guidelines for short story collections if nothing already exists? -- Andrew Sullivan Cant 05:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

So what do You propose (guidelines)? feydey 06:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I have start the article for The_Collected_Stories_of_Vernor_Vinge and I am working to get it into a format which would work for anthologies. I have stolen elements from the novel templete where appropriate and left others out. For example the additional details sections that come after the plot summary in the Novel template do apply to an entire anthology but they might apply to the stories. A short story description could be kept in th anthology article until more information exists for it and it can be broken out into a seperate article, if necessary.

Please let me know if you, or any other more experienced wikipeians, have suggestions for how I have laid things out.

(P.S.: I am still working on writing the story summaries.)

-- Andrew Sullivan Cant 05:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised Books

Would anyone here be interested in helping to maintain an "Uncategorised books" category by sorting it? There are a large number of them in the Uncategorised articles category. If so, please reply here and I will create it. Aelfthrytha 05:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I or someone else from the Books Portal can work on the category, go ahead and create it. feydey 10:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Not sure I understand the concept or the category. Where is Category:Uncategorized articles or Category:Uncategorised articles. The tempate marker {{Uncategorised}} I understand but the whole use of that implies that someone "hasn't" put on a category yet. Surely it is as easy to place on a Category:Novels or Category:Books or idealy something more helpful. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 10:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

My reasoning was as follows. I don't have enough expertise (or interest, to be honest) in the sorting and categorization of books to be effective at sorting them. Putting them into an uncategorised books category rather than throwing them all into either novels or books would prevent someone having to root through those categories to find those that need attention. Oh, and the category you're looking for is Category:Category needed; there are a group of editors who go through and see that those articles are properly categorised - all the ones which take the tag {{uncategorised}} or any of its variants end up there. Will create the category. Aelfthrytha 12:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Surely the way to drive this would be with a clone of {{Uncategorised}}, something like {{UncatBooks}}. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 13:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

That would be another way to do it, but basically what the template {{uncategorized}} does is put things into a category - it's the same thing, really. Aelfthrytha 14:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{WPBooks}}

	Literature Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate, you can edit the article attached to this page. You can discuss the Project at its talk page.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.

A created a basic template {{WPBooks}} for articles in the scope of the project. Keep in mind that I have limited template-making experiences, so feel free to expand it. What do you think of it? Should it be added to the front page? NauticaShades 08:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like a good basis to start from - for other techniques you might like to use, trawl the {{NovelsWikiProject}} template for ideas. Good one! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I've tried, but it's so complicated, it's hard to make anything out. It gave me a few good ideas, though. NauticaShades 09:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

So, what made you remove it from the main project page. Did someone object to it? :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 12:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, what gives? I've actually already added it to a couple of articles... unless there's some reason for its removal (like if it was hypnotizing us to kill babies), I don't see why you removed it. EVula 14:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I had put it on, then had second thoughts, thinking I might have been a bit hasty. But I suppose it it has support now, so it's officially on! NauticaShades 15:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Check the To Do list to see what's been tagged and what hasn't. NauticaShades 15:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cat year nav

I'm developing a template called {{cat year nav}} that has most or all of the functionality of the dedicated yearly navigation templates. I've already replaced {{cvg year nav}} with it. If it is suitable for your project, I encourage you to use it (or tell me what it needs so I can fix it up). Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
• User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
• User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
• User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Uncategorised books

Category:Uncategorised books has become very large. Aelfthrytha 04:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advice wanted re: author's notability

I came across this article, Lynn Coulter, and saw it need clean up. I also wondered it the subject of the article was sufficiently notable as to merit an article. I don't have a good feeling for writer notability -- could perhaps one or more WP Books members take a look at it and see if it merits deletion? Thanks, --A. B. 02:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing links to it. I can't see any reason to say it's notable.

Incidentally, the original contributor, whoever he or she may have been, has never contributed anything else except (almost the same day) an edit to Heirloom plants. Andrew Dalby 09:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks -- that's the way I felt about the article, but I wanted a second set of eyes. I will list for PROD. --A. B. 11:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I've listed this article now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lynn Coulter. The author has made some edits to further establish her notability; I think it's still borderline at best, but others may disagree. Once again some objective third parties with a good feel for what constitutes author notability would be helpful in sizing this one up given the recent changes. --A. B. 17:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I vote for the article to stay. She has won an Independent Artist Award in Literature from the Georgia Council for the Arts, which I regard as being notable. Alternatively, do we need an entry for the Georgia Council for the Arts where Coulter and others could be listed? Just my 2 cents worth  :-) Roaming27 21:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amazon template request

Howdy all - Since so many articles use external links to Amazon.com, I put in a request for an Amazon.com template here. Is anyone good at this? Thanks for any help - Pegship 16:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Template made (see the requested template page), but like I said there, I'm unsure of whether or not the template should even exist. EVula 16:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Claude Frollo

Would anyone who read the original Hunchback of Notre Dame book add some info on his character? Most of the stuff at his article is from the Disney movie version. --DrBat 21:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion section for author and book articles?

Hi. I was looking at the 13 November 2006 version of the article and noticed it had a "Discussion" section. It seemed a bit unusual by Wikipedia standards, but I don't normally work on book and author articles. For now, I have moved the material to the article's talk page. Could one or more of you take a look at this and see what you think? Thanks, --A. B. 02:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

You were right to take it out of the Harry M. Caudill article. Articles don't have discussion sections because this is what the talk page is for. But in this case I don't think the material really belongs in the talk page either! I suppose the first paragraph could be shoehorned into an article about the specific book referred to, but the long quotations from the book don't really suit Wikipedia at all. Andrew Dalby 16:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "New books" listings on "[Year] in literature" pages

Is there any kind of standard in place for what gets listed on the "[Year] in literature" pages?

At the moment, the "New books" sections appear to be totally random assemblages, neither limited by notability nor in any way complete.

Dybryd 19:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Joyce

James Joyce is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{WPBooks}}

After some hard work, I've incorporated a rating system into the {{WPBooks}} banner, so go out there and get rating! NauticaShades 09:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised (non-fiction) book (stub)s

I've 'bot-catted a number of non-fiction book-stubs with no other categories into Cat:uncategorised books. Alai 22:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Book cover replacement project

I've started WikiProject Free book covers, which used to be in my user space, as a project to replace fair use images of old books with public domain ones. All of these images are affected by the replaceable clause of the fair use policy, so this is a crucial task. We've gotten a lot done while it was in user space but there's still a lot of work to be done, so please come lend a hand. Every replacement advertises the project, so even doing one or two will help. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Chick Bowen 21:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Uncategorised books

It is starting to fill up again. Not that bad right now but there are still articles there.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.131.61.103 (talk) 22:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Books/works/etc. by author categories

Cross-posted to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Novel categorization, Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (categories) (this is where the November discussion was), Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion
I know this has been hashed over before. Each of the sub-cats of Cat:Works by artist has its own style, but they are relatively consistent within their sub-cats, and I for one would like to apply a consistent style for written works. I have done a count: of the 344 sub-cats of written works by author (books, short stories, novels, etc.), 162 sub-cats are named [X] by [Name] or [X] of [Name] and 182 are named [Name] [Xs]. If we can't agree on aesthetics, can we at least go with the numbers (i.e. [Name] [Xs])? Any thoughts? Her Pegship (tis herself) 21:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(categories)#The_Return_of_Works_by_Artist... should be the single place to debate this. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Character Guidelines

Hi! I am a member of your daughter project WP:ASUE. There was a recent question on the Project talk page regarding Character Guidlines. For example, what is considered a major character? What about minor? Main? Extra? (etc.) Does this WikiProject have certain guidelines for these? Thanks.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 15:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC of Palestine:Peace Not Apartheid

As per WP:RFC, I am requesting the help of this wikiproject in solving an RFC of a book issue. I've pasted the RfC below. Thank you. GabrielF 13:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Talk:Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid#Request for comment

This is a dispute over the length and readability of this article.

• GabrielF believes that at 70+kilobytes of text, this article is too long. Further it is difficult to read because it contains too many quotes which are poorly organized. Further, in a number of cases a one-sentence quote is preceded by as many as three or four sentences explaining the background of the person being quoted, and GabrielF believes this information is unnecessary. GabrielF believes that the Reviews and Commentaries section needs to be considerably paired down, with non-notable quotes removed and other quotes reformatted so that the opinion is in the first sentence of the paragraph and not the last. Further, he believes that some material about specific disputes should be taken out of the giant Reviews and Commentaries section and placed in new sections describing those specific disputes. (E.g. disputes over the use of the word "apartheid", the resignation of Kenneth W. Stein, etc.)
• NYScholar appears to object to deleting any sourced material from the page.13:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFD notice

• List of characters of La Comédie humaine‎ is currently up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of characters of La Comédie humaine. Please come and help save (even better, improve) an article about a seminal part of French Literature. —ExplorerCDT 17:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't completely know what I'm doing yet, but I made 1 small change in the entry on The Accidental Tourist, which I hope will help.Thaddeus Slamp 03:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] need help placing these images of a Chinese bamboo book

I have these four great images of a Chinese bamboo book, found on flickr and now on the commons, but I'm having trouble placing them on Wikipedia. Where should these photos go? Any thoughts?

unfolded

"page" edges

binding

cover

Thanks, — coelacan talk — 06:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to place pics/photos. But you might consider posting them in the Bamboo - other uses article? Or how about the Book - history article?
Roaming27 06:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Bamboo! Of course! I'll squeeze one in there. And book is kind of full, but I put one at history of the book. By the way, you can learn to place images at Help:Images. Here's an example: [[Image:Bamboo book - binding - UCR.jpg|thumb|The binding of a Chinese bamboo book.]] will produce the photo that you see in this page. So yeah, thanks for the suggestions. I'll go do bamboo and if anyone else has further suggestions, I'll be checking back here. Or just stick the pictures where you feel appropriate. — coelacan talk — 07:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help  :-) And thank you for the Help:Images link, I'll check it out. Roaming27 08:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] East of Eden copyright infringements?

There have been some disputes regarding East of Eden. This has been assessed as "Top Importance" by WikiProject Novels. Please check out the situation and make some comments. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 08:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Literary criticism

I'm planning on doing some major revisions on the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland article, but I haven't done that much work on book articles before. One of the biggest things that needs work is information about its themes, motifs, allusions, etc., but I'm not quite sure how to go about it. The easiest way would probably to divide them up and give examples of each, but doing solely that will just end up in an article of OR, which is unnecessary given the plethora of available sources. How are these topics normally approached without delving into mere anecdotal examples? ShadowHalo 06:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

The FA The Old Man and the Sea has a section on literary criticism and Starship Troopers, The Giver have some. Just source it well, then all is ok. feydey 13:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. ShadowHalo 00:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoration literature FAR

Restoration literature has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Documents / Literature category loop

There currently exists a loop of Category:Documents → Category:Literature → Category:Documents (Shortened as Documents used to feed into Literature via Non-fiction literature). Clearly the loop ought to be broken, and I favor doung so by removing Documents as a parent of Literature, but since this is this project's bailiwick, which should link should be cut? Caerwine Caer’s whines 04:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vengeance: The True Story of an Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team

Can someone please contribute to this article? -Sunshine 20:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seven Years in Tibet

This article is in dire need of distinction between the book and the film. Currently the page covers the film plot only and very little about the book appears at all, despite it being something of a classic book long before the "blockbuster" film.

Looking at other books which have been turned into films, the film(s) tend to get a separate (and somewhat subsidiary) page, which is what I think really needs to be done in this case. Any suggestions / offers of help? Rlfb 23:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project Scope issues

I have no problem with the all encompasing scope of WP:Books; however it seems to me a little pointless to tag multitudes of "Novels", "Novellas", "Novelettes" and "Short stories" with the WPBooks project template when the works themselves fall into the purview of the descendant project. It is not "generally" as if there is not work going on in that project to work on these articles from a literature point of view. I can see a point in tagging highly prominent novels with the extra tag. It just seems to be we are seeing needless overlap - which can become unproductive. Just my two penneth! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk)

[edit] Os Lusíadas could use some work

Howdy, literature folks. The Portuguese national epic Os Lusíadas is considered to be "one of the most important literary works in the world". The en Wikipedia article could use some work. Much of the current article was translated from Portuguese Wikipedia and could use some rewriting and cites. -- (I wanted to post this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Literature, but of course that redirects here to Wikipedia:WikiProject Books. I'm also crossposting this note to other projects. If you know somewhere that this should be crossposted, please do so, but please leave this original here. Thanks.) -- Writtenonsand 12:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I have started some work on it, hope it meets with approval so far. Give me a bell if you want me to stop :) SGGH 11:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special characters/typography in titles of works of art (books, etc.)

I have asked a question over at the Manual of Style (titles) page that is relevant to this project. —pfahlstrom 21:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Literary style

Can I tag an article about a literary style, namely sensibility (although it was more than a literary style), with a books tag? If not, what is the right project for it? Thanks. Awadewit 06:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Articles have sometimes several tags from different wikiprojects, so I see nothing wrong with tagging it. feydey 13:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Although the article itself is really a real mish-mash and is hardle all about a literary style or genre. It needs a fair bit of attention before it is clear what it is about. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 14:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I know, I was planning on working on it. Collaborators would be nice, though, since it is a difficult topic. Awadewit 14:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If I Die in a Combat Zone, Box Me Up and Send Me Home

I'm having trouble navigating my way to an assessment request area in this project, I must be tired :(. Is there anyway I could leave the link here? Just hoping someone could come and assess it so it doesn't sit unassessed all the while. Thanks, and sorry to bother you/for being in the wrong place! SGGH 22:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson

I will appreciate any editor who could improve this article. I am not certain whether we can classify this book as a fiction or not. It is a spiritual book written in allegories, and while it is written in the form of a fiction, it doesn't really have a plot... --BorgQueen 09:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Literary criticism for comprehensiveness

I think we should explicitly say in the project page, that in order for a Literature article (books, concepts, etc.) to be considered "Comprehensive" ( and therefore FA ), it must contain a section of Literary criticism ( =analysis ) of the subject.--BMF81 11:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV list of novels

I edit novels for a living. And I'm weary of explaining POV to my clients. I want them to have, on one page, a list of well known books that illustrate each of various points of view, so I've created an article called List of novels by point of view to fulfill my unmet need. Here's hoping my fellow literate types will embrace the page and assist me by populating it with a few well known, widely read novels. The associated Talk page may likewise interest you. Thanks, folks! --TheEditrix2 16:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive.org

I've been watching the Internet Archive's new books feed. Each day there are about 500 new books added, it's like rummaging through the stacks of an old library, a wide mix. Many of them are quiet spectacular and useful for Wikipedia, such as most of the works by F. Scott Fitzgerald, some of which are not available anywhere else. Most well known books published before 1923, my experience is a 50/50 chance it's currently available on IA, or Google Books.

Is there a project or initiative on Wikipedia to sync up the book scanning projects with Wikipedia articles? At the most basic level, any author who published between 1500 and 1923 should have a link such as:

• Works by John Muir at Internet Archive. Scanned, illustrated original editions.

Thoughts or ideas? -- Stbalbach 03:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopædia Britannica is now a FAC

Hi all,

After several months of work, I think Encyclopædia Britannica might be ready for FAC. It's presently rated as "A-class" by this WikiProject. Please take the time to look it over, and I hope that you all can support it there — thanks! Willow 01:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Book Collecting

Can some of you help out on the book collecting article? I just spent a few hours getting rid of POV issues and structuring it, but it still needs a lot of work (especially towards the end). --'oac' (old american century) | Talk 02:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Ahh the gift of EB1911 just keeps on giving. Best to start from scratch. Save anything obviously original, dump anything obviously from EB1911. It will open up room for improvement. -- Stbalbach 03:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, one minute after my major contribution it was reverted by a user using the PNG crusade bot. I left a comment on their talk page, as I don't know if this was an automatic edit or if they actually knew what they were reverting. Could someone please view my contributions by clicking here, and reverting back to my edit if you feel it appropriate? I believe my contributions help the article have a more NPOV, and reverting my edit is clearly reverting back to a more poor article (the grammar in some parts is terrible). I don't want to go around reverting articles to my own edits, so I'd like someone to give me feedback and let me know if my contributions were appropriate or why the article is best without my edit. Thanks. --'oac' (old american century) | Talk 04:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Fine, I've done as you requested (I see the bot-editor has meanwhile apologised). The two subsequent edits were 1 unnecessary category and 1 dubious link -- please check that one in case it's good. I think you need to do a bit of copy-editing -- I don't have time. Note that the correct English for "whom's" is "whose"! Not sure if that was your slip or someone else's. Andrew Dalby 11:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Galician literature

I would appreciate some expert help to distinguish the minor authors and the outstanding ones in Galician literature. Some of them received an homage in the annual regional literature celebration from 1963, so they are more than fourty! The list in that article is about the "Main authors" and it would be good to select the best. Thank you for advance.--Garcilaso 10:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)