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Contents 1 Over 200 pages waiting to be deleted!! 2 Split off images? 3 Drop-boxes 4 right category 5 Backlog tag 6 Article Cracker (pejorative) copied to Cracker (white) 7 NOGALLERY warring 8 Proposal of relevance to those who do image speedy deletions 9 Why is this page listed here? 10 Categorization bug?

[edit] Over 200 pages waiting to be deleted!!

Is there some sort of {{Super admin backlog}} tag that I could hit this page with (: VectorPotential^Talk 00:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh. Now there is one... :) I thought in those cases it was customary to simply commence some serious nagging at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Femto 13:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

You know, sometimes I think we might need one of those, especially when there are over 300 articles waiting in here... – Riana ^ঋ 06:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split off images?

Is it time to split off all of the image nominations to a separate category? Most of the introduction on the pages is taken up with list of image deleting related lists. Then there is the images themselves. Vegaswikian 07:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it's time for some more admins to help clear out the backlog of images. The categories are on this page for a very good reason: so they don't get forgotten. There are literally hundreds of images that have been awaiting so-called "speedy" deletion for several weeks. If more people would help delete them, the "Images/Proposed deletion" section of this page would be greatly reduced. —Angr 09:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeh, with so many admins around, I'm surprised that a lot more don't seem to want to do the grunt work. Maybe it's because doing the images requires a little more knowledge of how things work - in particular, fair use and the plethora of image copyright tags. enochlau (talk) 01:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

There's that, there's also the fact that deleting images means you have to remove red links from the articles where they were used (which is incredibly time-consuming, but you'll get yelled at if you don't do it), and there's the fact that deleting images means dealing with the onslaught of "Why did you delete my image?" messages on your talk page. It's a thankless job. —Angr 06:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

There are are things like WP:NPW that can help with the redlink issue. It's not streamlined for image deletion, but it works ok most of the time (some infoboxes still cause problems). Maybe we should consider improving the "admin howto" on image deletions. It does seem to be a problem that many admins seem to consider image deletion to be something complicated and scary. Most of it is actualy pretty stright forward, does it have a source? If no then delete etc. (allowing for some common sense in cases where the source is obvious and should just be inserted instead of deleting it). --Sherool (talk) 07:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drop-boxes

I made drop-boxes for the various image subcategories to reduce the clutter. Hope people like it. Mangojuice^talk 17:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Very nice. Thank you. --Fang Aili ^talk 19:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree, big improvement thanks --BozMo talk 19:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I like it =) Thanks. enochlau (talk) 01:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] right category

A7 is being used for short nonsense pages for which G1 or G2 could more appropriately be used, and it makes it somewhat harder to sort usefully.DGG 09:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Just drop a message off to those people who are tagging them then... they may be new at it, and might want some guidance. It definitely won't be administrators who are doing it wrong though, because admins would just zap it without tagging it =) enochlau (talk) 01:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Backlog tag

Why are certain admins so hellbent on leaving the backlog tag uncommented, even when there are less than 10 pages displayed on this category? Apparently it's due to the dated deletion categories... since when? Did we agree on this or something? Why the hell would we care about something entirely unrelated to CSD? —Pilotguy (go around) 22:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean "entirely unrelated to CSD"? Those dated deletion categories contain hundreds -- by now, possibly thousands -- of images that need to be deleted right now. They are all speedy deletion candidates, no less so for being in lower categories than CAT:CSD, and no less so for having been speedy deletion candidates for more than two weeks. If the "backlog" tag bothers you, help get rid of it by clearing the backlog of images awaiting deletion. —Angr 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, because the tag is obviously causing all the admins to rush over here and clear out ALL THOSE IMAGES! Besides, those categories already have their own backlog tags, do they not? So what's the point? No one gives a flying fuck about them anyway. Why not use the tag for its intended purpose, which is to show when there is a backlog in this category, rather than unnecessarily leave it up when no one agreed to do that in the first place? —Pilotguy (go around) 00:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I was helping with one of the more atrocious image baklogs, I'll get back on it soon hopefully. I agree with Pilotguy, there should be a backlog tag here when there's a backlog here. Those other places have their own backlog tags. Grandmasterka 01:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't "other places". Those are part of "here", because they are all candidates for speedy deletion. They belong in this category, and as long as they haven't been deleted, this category has a backlog. —Angr 06:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

You are naive, but whatever. I have removed the backlog tag. As a responsible admin you should refrain from re-instating it prematurely when as you see there is no consensus to do that. —Pilotguy (go around) 00:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

"Naive". For saying that there is an enormous backlog of images awaiting speedy deletion when there is one. You as a "responsible" admin should not remove the backlog tag just because you "don't give a fuck" about images. —Angr 11:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it is better if the backlog tag is not here, but on the specific image categories. That way, the attention of the hypothetical admin who checks for the backlog tag is drawn to the images instead of the general CSD category when the latter is not backlogged by itself. I think putting the backlog tag here because other categories (that happen to be linked form here) are backlogged is actually counterproductive. Kusma (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Geez, Angr, stop being so immediatist. Wikipedia will not fail simply because a few items that perhaps should be deleted aren't immediately deleted. There is no need to create so much drama over such a minor thing. Kelly Martin (talk) 14:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I see a need to remove the articles as quickly as possible since the longer they exist, the more likely they are to be copied to a shadow and remain there forever. Then we have garbage articles out in several places, that are no longer on wikipedia but do exist in other places with an attribution back to us. I don't believe that the images are as likely to be copied unless they are included in an article. Vegaswikian 19:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The vast majority of images tagged for deletion are copyright violations. Keeping them here puts Wikimedia in legal jeopardy. Deleting them is much, much more important than deleting the "Joe Blow is a really kewl guy!!11! LOL!" kind of article that gets listed here. —Angr 19:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

In that case, the backlog tag should definitely be on the individual categories instead of here. Why draw admins to C:CSD where they'll work on deleting "Joe Blow is a really kewl guy!!11! LOL!" articles when they should be deleting images found in separate categories? timrem 19:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

When those image categories were added, I seem to recall comments about being able to use a bot to delete them and not needing admins to do extra work. Why can't we use a bot? Do administrators need to remove the redlinks left behind? Vegaswikian 20:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No we can't have a bot automaticaly delete everyting simply because someone added a scertain template to it. We need a human to check to make sure the image actualy meet a deletion criterea just as much as we need to for articles. With the possible exception of orphanded fair use images (would be fairly easy to automate a a check that a) Image is tagged as fair use b) has been tagged as orphanded for 7 days. c) Does not have any incoming links). Not that such a bot would be likely to be approved anyway, there is a deep seated fear of bots with admin tools. --Sherool (talk) 07:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the suggestion was for a bot to remove red links after the image has been deleted, not to have a bot delete the images. —Angr 04:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, on a side note, in my experience with the no-fair-use-rationale backlog, most of the images I found during my time there could be kept and be perfectly acceptable, if someone had taken a few seconds to write a fair use rationale. (I ended up writing quite a few of them.) I have a feeling there might possibly be a way to coax people to learn more about fair use images before uploading them, so we don't have such a backlog... Grandmasterka 10:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Cracker (pejorative) copied to Cracker (white)

(I moved this from Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut and paste moves where I had originally posted it.) The article Cracker (pejorative) was copied to Cracker (white) by User:Ray led the way without any explanation or talk. I tagged it with {{db-histmerge|Cracker (pejorative)}}. The tag was subsequently removed by users Uncle Otama and Otama's Dream, who based on user name and creation 15 minutes apart, are almost certain sock puppets, I suspect of Ray led the way. The attention of an administrator is requested please. Thanks. - Dan D. Ric 17:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the fork and redirected it to Cracker (pejorative). —Angr 20:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NOGALLERY warring

Regarding the frequent addition and removal of __NOGALLERY__... note that you can go back in history and view the other version, and get it to show up exactly the way you like, so it's not really necessary to flip it back and forth. --Interiot 01:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal of relevance to those who do image speedy deletions

The title says it all, really. See here. Picaroon 19:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is this page listed here?

Talk:8 Foot Sativa is listed in this category, but I can't figure out why. I've looked to see if a template it's using is causing it, but some of the templates it lists as using don't appear to even be used on the page. Any ideas? ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization bug?

Anybody know what gives with Image:P1020541.JPG or Image:Crys5.JPG (or a few others I noticed)? They have speedy delete (redundant) tags on them, and on their description pages they claim to be members of the appropriate delete categories, but they don't actually seem to be in the categories when I look at the listings. Yes, I tried to purge, but maybe didn't do it right? Staecker 12:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

That's odd. I'm not sure, but it may have to do with Template:Db-redundantimage, if someone wants to take a look. VegaDark 23:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)