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Hello. Please provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Hyacinth 01:31, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm generally pretty good about this, but I'll keep it in mind. Thanks. Cobra libre 00:07, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Save for Dubliners?

I haven't re-read The Dalkey Archive in ages, but I thought the Joyce character said that Oliver St. John Gogarty wrote most of the stories, while he, Joyce, wrote only a bit of one, and that Gogarty needed some patsy in whose name to publish, so as to protect his reputation. I.e. the character of Joyce says that, essentially, he didn't write Dubliners, either. Am I wrong? Geogre 18:48, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh hell, I probably made a mistake; I don't doubt that you're correct, and my memory is faulty. I'm going to go ahead and remove my change to the article, because I'm in the office and don't have the book at hand. Cobra libre

Well, my head has been leaking a bit lately, too, so I could be wrong, but I liked the way that it was a complete reversal of the usual story about Dubliners -- that Gogarty wrote a bit of one, but it was really Joyce. Anyhow, it's not such a big deal, although I do want to get refamiliar with all the novels again soon and do a big addition. (E.g. someone has in there that At Swim-Two-Birds has nothing but recycled characters because there are too many characters in the world already. Well, in the novel, the narrator says that he has a friend who says that there are too many characters, but there is no statement that the narrator agrees or that it is his intent. Further, I really don't know if Furriskey and the others are extant characters. I assumed that the person who put that in knew something I didn't about Irish Westerns. He or she may have, but, then again, may not.) Brain leak is a common malady, and you've been doing most of the heavy lifting on the article, so put it any way you're comfortable. Geogre 04:32, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wow, I had never heard that story about Gogarty and Dubliners. Nor did I remember the reference to that story in The Dalkey Archive, which just goes to show that I shouldn't have been making edits related to that novel! (My self-education in things Joycean is ongoing, and was largely reinstigated after first reading Flann O'Brien a couple years ago.) The details of At Swim-Two-Birds are becoming cloudy for me, but I think you're correct about it; I had always assumed that Jem Casey, Furriskey, et al were caricatures of types of people or characters rather than actual appropriations from existing literature... though I can't claim to have enough familiarity with Irish literature of that time to really know. Thanks for keeping an eye on the article and for your excellent contributions! Cobra libre 22:49, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
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