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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!
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- My pleasure...happy editing! Kukini 04:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] خوش آمدید
Welcome back! It's nice to see you return! Kitabparast 13:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Welcome back too! I'm really happy that you're back again! Mar de Sin Speak up! 22:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi movies
I saw that you corrected the articles of some Hindi movies from "English" to "Translation". I'll help you do this, as there are so many movie articles with "English:XXX", "lit.- XXX", etc. (partly my fault), which would best be expressed as "Translation". Bahut bahut shukria Mar de Sin Speak up! 22:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for the Barnstar!
Thanks for your barnstar! Bahut bahut shukria, aap ki mehrbani hai! Mar de Sin Speak up! 15:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi Wikipedia
Hi, I've seen that you edit a lot of Hindi related articles here on Wikipedia. You may consider joining Hindi Wikipedia here. Thanks GizzaChat © 12:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindustani orthography
Check out Hindustani orthography and let me know what you think. –jonsafari 00:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!
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[edit] Thank you for the barnstar
Bahut shukria for the barnstar! It was a fun article to write. I think a history of the usage of the various scripts would be interesting to include in the article, but I don't know much about that. I'm more of a linguistics guy. To answer your question, my background and current research mostly involves languages that use the Perso-Arabic script, but I've studied some Hindi, Sanskrit, Panjabi, and some Dravidian languages too. So many languages, so little time. –jonsafari 05:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Urdu alphabet
Adab, John Sahib. Thanks for your questions. Nast'aliq is actually a script style, not an alphabet. Naskh is the normal style that Persian and Arabic are usually written in. It's kind of like the difference between cursive and print. Urdu can be written in either style, but Nast'aliq is preferred for its beauty. I hope this helps! Khuda hafiz Mar de Sin Speak up! 19:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sure! That idea would help a lot. Thanks --Mar de Sin Speak up! 20:57, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Feel free to help expand Urdu alphabet. There are a lot of letters (vowels, hamza, etc) that I haven't yet covered and many changes to make. Shukria! --Mar de Sin Speak up! 21:57, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindustani
Salaam-e khudavand aap ke sath ho! If you want me to help out the Hindustani pages in any way, please let me know. I am going to remove the Hindustani pages from my watchlist until then. Keep up the great work! Yours in Christ Jesus, Khuda hafiz, Kitabparast 03:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed Urdu-Hindustani Romanization move
Salaam. Thank you for your initiative to move The Modern International Standard Letters of Alphabet for URDU - HINDUSTANI - "THE" INDIAN LANGUAGE to a more sensible name. I thought I was the only one who thought the title was cumbersome, among other problems. You have my full support in this move. Keep me updated on this if you run into any problems. The article also has some issues with lack of citations, formatting, neutrality, and I suspect some possible copyvio problems, although I need look into this matter more to be sure. I'm sure the primary editor has good intentions, and the actual romanization scheme is fine, but the article has plenty of issues. –jonsafari 22:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- My vote is on Urdu-Hindustani Romanization or Uddin and Begum Urdu-Hindustani Romanization, since they imply a specific, actual romanization. Romanization of Urdu-Hindustani implies the article is about the general idea of romanizing Urdu-Hindustani, which it is not. Uddin and Begum Urdu-Hindustani Romanization is fine, and a more detailed title, except it's really long. As far as I know, there isn't another romanization that claims to cover specifically Urdu and Hindustani, so I don't think there would be a namespace clash using Urdu-Hindustani Romanization.
- I'll look at the Hindi-Urdu grammar IPA situation when I can. I can't claim to know enough about the language to provide a phonetic transcription, but I can probably give a moderately accurate phonemic one. But then again, it's a grammar article, not a phonology article, so a phonemic transcription is more appropriate anyways. I'm not a native Persian speaker, but I'm slowly working on it :-) –jonsafari 00:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Walaikum Salam
I was busy doing some job-related work during past weeks, but now I am back and we can work together for our common goals towards Roman Urdu/Hindi & Hindustani. I am currently reading the article The Modern International Standard Letters of Alphabet for URDU - HINDUSTANI - "THE" INDIAN LANGUAGE. I will hit you back soon. By da way, thanx for remembering me and scrapping me on my talk page several times during my absence. Salam! -Fayyaz Abbas 31.08.06
[edit] link to Persian
Hello, when you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out [[Persian language|Persian]] or [[Iran|Persian]]. Regards, Jeff3000 06:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi and Urdu scripts
I noticed that you have added Hindi and Urdu scripts to many articles. I really appreciate your work, but it seems that their are quite a few mistakes made. Just a few tips: check Google, the right Hindi/Urdu spelling will give you thousands of results, and its best to write the script manually instead of using a software. Thanks, --Mar de Sin Talk to me! 19:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am really sorry for having to revert/remove your Nagari-script edits, but I felt the importance of it was too little. For example, Pakistani film is almost unheard of in India, and is targeted toward the Urdu speaking population, not really including Hindustani. And also, there is no need to put Devanagari on many Indo-Muslim articles, since Urdu is the predominant language, and if you start using Devanagari/Hindi, then the addition of other Indian languages/scripts would be justified, which would really be insignificant. Shukria aur khuda hafiz, Mar de Sin Talk to me! 21:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, I see how Devanagari can be relevant. Nevertheless, I wouldn't think that the number of Indo-Muslims who don't know Urdu script would be too significant, but I guess it is very much possible. I will accept your changes on these pages. If you would like to learn how to fully read/write devanagari and/or Urdu script, omniglot is a great way to start. And software is a great source too, but some minor fixes must be done to the orginal phrase in order to transliterate it, e.g. pagal -> paagal, mein-> me.n, thanda -> ThanDaa . Bahut shukria aur khuda hafiz, Mar de Sin Talk to me! 01:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bollywood
Anupam sir, Pls give references for your claim that bollywood films are produced in Hindustani language.-Bharatveer 05:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Anupam sir, Pls see Wikipedia:Reliable sources& Wikipedia:No original research.
- Posters do not make reliable sources; pls cite any source that claim Bollywood movies are made in Hindustani language.Preferably the Certificate given by the Censor board of India clearly gives the name of the language in which film is made. I would request you to cite any of such certificates here.-Shanti, shanti and more shanti-Regards-Bharatveer 04:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikibooks
Hello! Can you contribute to the Urdu Wikibook (in Wikibooks) Please?
Thanks and Successfully!!!
[edit] User:Cool Cat/In many languages...
Thank you for the Hindustani translation --Cat out 15:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Phoenician alphabet
I don't know whether putting the Devanagari script is a good idea, since Devanagari deviates so much from Phoenician, with 2 d's, 2 t's, so many ways of represent gimel, etc, and no letter at all for some sounds. Bahut shukria aur Khuda hafiz, Mar de Sin Talk to me! 00:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- And I also believe that the other alphabets' letters on the chart are direct derivatives of the Phoenician letter, which isn't true for Devangari. Mar de Sin Talk to me! 00:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- The thing about Brahmic-from-Phoenician is unsourced. To be a language on the chart, I would think that there is a definitive history for each letter deriving from Phoenician. For example, it it known where each of the arabic letters come from, since the abjad system was basically the exact order as phoenician, e.g. Alif, Baa, Jeem/Geem, Daal, compared to Aleph Beth Gimel Daleth. The Hebrew script was based on the Phoenician in almost the same way as the arabic, and the Greek system was really too. From Greek there comes both Latin and Cyrillic, and although deviate a bit from Phoenician, their link is still definitive. Devanagari and even Brahmi have no definite link to Phoenician, and the way the letters are arranged was based on Panini (k kh g gh ng...). And Phoenician is a Semitic script, not Indo-European. I hope this clears up anything, and let me know what you think! Thanks! Mar de Sin Talk to me! 19:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have removed the Devanagari/Hindi column. If you have any more concerns/comments, feel free to discuss on my talk page. Bahut bahut shukria! Mar de Sin Talk to me! 19:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- The thing about Brahmic-from-Phoenician is unsourced. To be a language on the chart, I would think that there is a definitive history for each letter deriving from Phoenician. For example, it it known where each of the arabic letters come from, since the abjad system was basically the exact order as phoenician, e.g. Alif, Baa, Jeem/Geem, Daal, compared to Aleph Beth Gimel Daleth. The Hebrew script was based on the Phoenician in almost the same way as the arabic, and the Greek system was really too. From Greek there comes both Latin and Cyrillic, and although deviate a bit from Phoenician, their link is still definitive. Devanagari and even Brahmi have no definite link to Phoenician, and the way the letters are arranged was based on Panini (k kh g gh ng...). And Phoenician is a Semitic script, not Indo-European. I hope this clears up anything, and let me know what you think! Thanks! Mar de Sin Talk to me! 19:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Pugnacious attitude
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that Bharatveer likes fights, and is actively looking for articles that I edit and making provocative changes. As if to say, "Nyah nyah nyah." Zora 20:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- No, I'm a Buddhist gori. American (Swedish-Texan heritage) and I live in Honolulu. I was once passionately involved in many of the Islam-related articles, just as a way of understanding Islam, but I have since tried to stay out of the fray. The problem is a continually changing roster of editors, 95% of whom have no academic training but a great many prejudices and even hatreds. We get a compromise worked out, a decent article written, and then someone new comes along and wants to know why the Muhammad article doesn't say Muhammad was a pedophile and rapist. It breaks my heart. Even the Bollywood articles are increasingly problematic. We have the Hindutva crusaders and then we have the gonzo fans who are sure that Shahrukh or Amitabh or Sridevi or Rani is the pinnacle of human achievement, perfect in every way, and that his or her article must be a shrine to the beloved one. Are American fans that nuts? I don't edit Hollywood actor articles. I wouldn't know.
- Oh, and as for me being respected -- take a look at my user page and the names people have called me. I was tickled pink when I was called a Jew and an Islamofascist bitch, both on the same day! Zora 06:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] In many languages...
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Thank you, Anupam, for contributing to my in many languages… page! I appreciate it very much, and I will remember you if I have any questions about your language. Thank you again! — $PЯINGεrαgђ 16:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC) |
[edit] Re: Jal
- Putting Hindi (or Divangari) in first line alongside Urdu gives a wrong idea as if Divangara is standard in the Band's country of origin. You can put Divangari in Etymology section whcih will make more sense as Jal is a very informal and almost obselete word in Urdu. Thanks! Szhaider 05:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A correction for the record
I do not add Urdu scripts to specifically Indian articles. I add Urdu script to only those articles whcih are relevent to Pakistan. Szhaider 05:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pashtun
Urdu-speaking Muslims are not Pashtun, they are just plain Indian Muslims. OK. Just referencing from the “The Joshua Project Website” is not going to cut it. I want to see a proper government census by mother-tongue to prove your claims. Napoleon12 7:58, 16 October 2006
- Clearly the people with Pashtun heritage for more than three genertions ago and have lost Pashtun culture cannot be classified as Pushtuns. Nearly 25% of Urdu speaking Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh and India are in this category. Claiming 11 million Pashtuns in India cannot be accepted. They now belong to Urdu speaking ethnic group.
- Siddiqui 03:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Saare Jahan Se Achcha
I dont wish to go 3rr, even though it is combatting vandalism. Please see to it to take whatever action you see fit.Bakaman Bakatalk 03:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi
Thank you, Anupam. The lesson is quite insightful, although I doubt I will ever fully understand exactly when one should use half-letters. If you ever do find the company that was mailing out gratis copies of the Qur'an, please do let me know.
When I finish my faux-Shakespearian comedy, I'll let you know. As of now, I'm working on ACT I Scene III. With Regards, Smc117tcc07 15:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pashtun people
Salam Anupam,
Sorry for that, I didnt even notice that, but luckily you did, so thank you for that. I'll try to fix it or put it the way you did.
Thanks alot for your advice and kind words and encouragement.
With regards, Tajik-Afghan
[edit] Roman Urdu
Sorry that I'm busy, but I will finish the table as soon as I have time, which may well be this weekend. Thanks, and Khuda hafiz! Mar de Sin Speak up! 00:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'm really sorry that I still don't have the time. I'm sorry to have to request you to ask another editor to aid you in this task. Thank you, and Khuda hafiz! Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Purdah
I see that the article purdah has an editwar. May I suggest that you insert purdah into the section "Other meanings" instead of the beginning of the article, because it has little relevance to the first and largest section. This way, I think both parties can be satisfied. Thanks and Khuda hafiz! Mar de Sin Speak up! 22:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think that some articles do deserve Hindi script. However, from my perception, Pakistani bands are not really that popular across the border, unlike how Indian films are very popular in Pakistan. Pakistani films also go largely unnoticed by Indian Bollywood aficionados. For some of the articles like purdah, azad, etc., Hindi script should go wherever relvant. Thanks! Mar de Sin Speak up! 22:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, many Pakistani bands are well known in India and appear on Indian music sites. However, the pages with Hindi scripts should only be limited to the ones that are known in India. Thanks! Mar de Sin Speak up! 23:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- If any revert war starts, it's best not to revert until a consensus is reached, as the 3RR rule is more strict now (I think). Thanks. Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think you should bring up the topic on either Szhaider's talk page or the talk page of the relevant article. I'm sorry but I don't wish to become too involved in this as I am still rather busy-- bahut afsos ki baat hai, ab sirf chhote edits karsakta hoon :(. Khuda hafiz. Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Bahut bahut shukria, aap ki bad.i mehrbani hai! Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think you should bring up the topic on either Szhaider's talk page or the talk page of the relevant article. I'm sorry but I don't wish to become too involved in this as I am still rather busy-- bahut afsos ki baat hai, ab sirf chhote edits karsakta hoon :(. Khuda hafiz. Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- If any revert war starts, it's best not to revert until a consensus is reached, as the 3RR rule is more strict now (I think). Thanks. Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, many Pakistani bands are well known in India and appear on Indian music sites. However, the pages with Hindi scripts should only be limited to the ones that are known in India. Thanks! Mar de Sin Speak up! 23:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Devanagari script
You're stepping into a minefield here and I may not be the best person to advise. For whatever it's worth, I'd suggest that you limit the supplementary Devanagari to material that is sold and advertised in India, and perhaps phrase it thus: "When appearing in India, or sold in India, rendered as XXX in Devanagari." That makes it very clear that you aren't attempting to claim the material for India, that you're just trying to reach out to Indian fans who might not be able to read the Urdu script. Take it slow and don't act as if you're a tank division heading for Islamabad! :) Zora 02:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bindi (decoration)
Please have a look at the talk page there. This is yet another instance of a certain cadre of editors replacing references to South Asia with the term "Indian sub-continent." Laying claim to the whole sub-continent. Zora 07:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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- User:Zora, You are just being out of your senses.Pls try to look things in their proper persepective.Partition of India happened and no one here wants to stake a claim to whole subcontinent anymore.But your argument that the the word "Indian" is Inflammatory and therefore it should not be used is illogical to say the least.-Bharatveer 08:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Bakasuprman, I hang out on a few desi blogs, like Sepia Mutiny, Bollywood Fugly, and Razib's genetics blog, and South Asian is the term used. By desis. They also use the term "brown" (as opposed to "black" or "white") but it doesn't seem to be catching on outside the blogosphere. South Asia may be denigrated in your circle of friends but in the online desi world, it seems to be well-accepted. Zora 08:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Afghanistan articles
Thanks for taking the time to comment upon the solid work that user NisarKand is doing in some areas of Wikipedia. The main Afghanistan article and a few others are strangely written from a modern Persian Nationalistic perspective--very wierd. Initially NisarKand's edits and attempts to insert information that was not tainted with this bias were simply reverted due to complaints, but I pointed out that a lot of his information is correct, and he has contributed a lot, so the initial wholesale reversions, at least, where removed. It has, however, turned into a serious eidt war with plenty of name-calling on all sides, though, so I'm not willing to participate until cooler heads prevail. NisarKand knows quite a bit about the history of Afghanistan and the Pashtun peoples, and it would be a shame to lose him as an editor. KP Botany 17:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it's quite a bit of work to get the neutral point of view in. It's hard enough copyediting, alone, when it seems to engage you in an editwar, too. Salaam, KP Botany 20:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] November Esperanza Newsletter
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[edit] Reply
Thanks for notifying me. As predicted, Sarvagnya (see wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/sarvagnya) thinks that bringing a few socks and fellow Kannada users has formed a "consensus". I think its funny because AFAIK, the Hindu and Urdu users reached a compromise, and its weird how some DMK style anti-Hindi deletionism still managed to creep up.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vidya Balan
Hi! Coud you kindly explain the reasons behind the edit war on the page (concerning addition of her name in Urdu)? Thanks for your time.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 16:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your Urdu
On your user page you claim to be native speaker of Urdu. I have noticed Urdu scripts that you have added to a variety of articles. Please do not take it personally. It is necessary to tell you for the sake of quality of the material presented at Wikipedia that Urdu scripts that you have added are completely wrong in 99% of the cases. I have fixed most of them in Pakistan related article. Please confirm the validity of the Urdu scripts before adding them to any articles. Szhaider 23:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Etymology of Hindi
Anupam, I notice that you watch the Hindi article. I added a discussion item about the etymology of the term "Hindi" to the Hindi talk page. I'd appreciate your comments. Sarayuparin 06:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
Namaste Anupam, sadly the language dispute where disruptive users try to whitewash Hindi has continued, with Sarvagnya attacking me and accusing me of "promoting a nationalist agenda". I find it hilarious, being of course instrumental in bringing together, Nastaliq script readers, Devanagari script readers, Bengalis, Marathis, and Malayalis together united in a common goal. See the nice long rant at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Statement_on_User:Bakasuprman_by_User:Sarvagnya. We need sensible users to add some sense to that section, so its not full of nonsense.Bakaman Bakatalk 04:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Its about user Hkelkar (who I have collaborated with on many pages) but users like Sarvagnya and KNM have taken time to bring the Kannada-Marathi dispute to the table and accuse me of many things. Since you were the calm voice on that page, your comments would help debunk the nonsense pasted by these editors inspired by regional conflict. Its funny how you and me worked with NAstaliq readers, NAgari readers, Bengalis, MAlayalis, Tamils, and MArathis to build consensus yet we are still defined by sarvagnya as the "Hindi Prachar Sabha" or "people that will lose their minds if precious Devanagari is removed from the page". What I will lose my mind over is tendentious editors POV-pushing and disruptive editing by regionalistic editors bent on making wiki a battleground.Bakaman Bakatalk 18:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Namaste Anupam, since you commented on the arbcom, this proposition Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop#Bakasuprman may be of interest to you.Bakaman Bakatalk 20:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Anupam! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Talk:Vidya Balan
The discussion there might interest you. The discussion is with Zora, who accuses myself, Bharatveer, and Deepujoseph (a Malayali admin) of censorship on wiki. I suggested that an Urduwiki link can be added to the article, so that those readers who wish for Nastaliq can read a whole article instead of merely her name.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, actually preferrably the only language link that would be there is the lang of her ethnicities (Malayali and Tamil). I cant read/write Tamil so thats a problem. I'll try and find some Tamil users though. They're working to build consensus on the case so your input will help in the discussion.Bakaman Bakatalk 15:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Namaste
Anupam, pls see Carnatic Music . This sort of deletion & retention of scripts cannot be restricted to some articles alone .So pls go and revert what you have done now.-Bharatveer 04:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia is not India
Rules & regulations should be applied for all articles wihtout exceptions.-Bharatveer 05:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] weak knowledge
All I have to say is your knowledge is weak and poor.I dont need you to tell me about the Muhajirs first of all,as my father is one. Second of all,Urdu might have developed in what is today india but it's parent languages is where it's heritage lies.Sanscrit was spoken in Multan.Where is that?You wont need a map I'll tell you:its in Pakistan.
As for you "acadmic" vision of what you call "history",you seem to lack in it. The so called "partician of india" is my best example.A provincecalled Punjab gets divided into two states and you cry "India got divided".Syria and Turkey were under the rule of the Ottoman empire,so by your arguemnt,Turks and Syrians are "the same" or that "Syria got divded into two".
India is in fact a whole day YOUNGER than Pakistan as it was liberated a whole day later by the British.The so-called land of "India" was nothing but independant states before the arrival of the British.It only became "one"(against their will,which explains the sepratist movements all across "India" today.) when the British forced all of south asia to live as ONE COLONY. When they arrived,they used the term the ancient Greeks did to refer to south asia,but again the term meant NOTHING to the people of South Asia.
Coming back to Urdu,your arguemnt that because it was simply born in what is today India,it automatically becomes "Indian". Let's make a similar arguemnt.The modern Turkish language evolved and now is spoken in Turkey,a country geographically located in Europe.SO by your arguement,your saying that Turkish should automatically gain the status of a European language just because it happens to evolve into what it is today in Europe.-LOL Sorry but reference to the Indus is staying in Pakistan's history article and if you do happen to tamper with it,you're asking for trouble.
We Pakistanis take more pride in our heritage than you Indians realise.
Oh one last thing."educated Muhajirs"(???)I didnt know ALL muhajirs were educated.I wonder then,why 90% of Karachi(a predominantly Muhajir city)lives in poverty.Nadirali 01:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
[edit] Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles_-_2
Voting on the scripts.--D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] disagree with abrahimic relgions
If these projects were focused on indic versions of there faiths such xtianity in india or Islam in India, I would have no problem with it. But they do not. They are general projects that do not focus on a particular region. For example, the WP india does include all of the military history project, it only includes the Indian-task-force part of it. Zohorastrianism is related to early vedic civilization and shares similar cultures with the indic philosphies. Therefore I request that they be removed. Even wikiprojects such as iran and indonesia do not direct associations with such projects such that are listed on their respective pages.--D-Boy 02:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- thanks for hearing me out.--D-Boy 04:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I might need some help
Wikipedia:Help_desk#Blocking_a_user He's trying to block me.--D-Boy 05:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] scripts
I think the Hindi should be placed only where it's really need maybe for example a bio such as Lara Dutta and Preity Zinta. People from UP, there's mismash of Hindi and Urdu and well as others. I think Hindi there would be appropriate.--D-Boy 03:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- A person like Kajol would not need Hindi scripts. Also, I agree with Ambroody's position on urdu especially with bollywood movies.--D-Boy 03:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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My 0.02 pence.... Firstly i couldnt care less if scripts are there or not. I'd support removal of vernacular scripts ONLY if all non-English scripts are removed simultaneously. Indian articles shouldnt be held to different standards. Re:Bollywood it is really idiotic to add Urdu to Bollywood articles ad hoc, more so for Bollowood bios (Kajol article for example had Urdu but no Marathi!). Unless the said movie uses stresses on Urdu (as understood in post-1947 context) i see no point in adding urdu script to articles like say Lage Raho.
My position is urdu would acceptable say at Akbar-Jodha, Umrao Jaan, Mughal-e-Azam and bio article suchs as the khans of bollywood, K. Asif, and big b since his dad was an urdu poet.--D-Boy 04:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Pls read again.-Bharatveer 09:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] urdu script needed
Munshi Premchand . Bakaman 06:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts
just incase you are interested in the discussion. No one else is really giving input.--D-Boy 03:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Urdu poetry
Hi Anupam! Sorry I never got back to you on the etymology of Hindi. I decided to let it slide for the time being. Re: the Urdu poetry article: I did see the Devanagari and Persian script samples you added to accompany the couplet. Szhaider removed them, I think, because he thought there was no need for the script example. Are those the reverts you are refering to? Sarayuparin 21:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I personally don't see what's wrong with having the Urdu and Devanagari scripts there. It seems particularly germane since the article is on Urdu poetry. Having the couplet in Urdu seems topical, at the very least. Sarayuparin 22:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Since the script additions have been reverted before, maybe it would be worthwhile to start a discussion on the article's talk page. That way all users who are interested in the matter can voice their opinions. It's always good to build concensus for an addition or deletion if the issue is contested. If no one responds to the discussion, then I suppose you can go ahead and put the script examples back. Sarayuparin 00:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Anupam
Hello, Afghan Historian here. Sorry I didnt respond to your post earlier. Yeah, thanks for the comments. As I said on my profile, I just like to interpret history with an NPOV and stay true to the sources. And yes, they do show that India and Pakistan were historically one geographical nation/expression, and today culturally more or less one but split between two nations. Not that I'm advocating reunification or anything. But I am a firm believer in peace, cooperation and normal relations between the two sister states. With regards to Shah Rukh Khan and the Pashtuns, there are full-blooded Pashtuns in the industry but I dont see Shah Rukh Khan as one of them specifically. Shah Rukh Khan is a Hindkowan Pashtun whose parents or grandparents were from Peshawar. Hindkowans are Pashtuns who are bilingual in both Pashto and Hindko. They follow Pashtunwali but are more conversant in Hindko than anything. Hindko is an old Indo-Aryan tongue and the last remanant of the branch of Indo-Aryan (Sanskrit-derived) languages that were once spoken in the Hindu Kush region on the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau. These are a more like a transitional subgroup between the Pashtuns and the Punjabis, or more likely a subgroup of Pashtuns who have embraced part of a different culture but still keeping the original ancestral cultural identity. It remotely like the Parsis you know. The Parsis view themselves as ethnically Persian and yet nationally and culturally Indian. Likewise, the Hindkowans view themselves as ethnically Pashtun, but linguistically and somewhat culturally more Indo-Aryan. Just like the Parsis still follow Zoroastrianism, the Hindkowans still keep to the old Pashtunwali and martial spirit. So its not uncommon for a Hindkowan to call himself Pashtun, as that's his ancestry and background, just as a Parsi, par example Freddie Mercury, will call himself Persian. In fact, as many take Shah Rukh Khan to be an actual Pashto-speaking Pashtun, many take Freddie Mercury to be an actual Farsi-speaking Persian, without understanding the context of his roots. The page we are writing, deals with Pashto-speaking Pashtuns from eastern Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan, where the ethnic group is based. There are Pashtuns of this kind in Bollywood, the most notable being the old Bollywood hearthrob Dilip Kumar (real name Mohammed Yusuf Khan), as well as 60-70's legend Feroz Khan, who was born to parents in Bangalore who had actually immigrated directly from Afghanistan itself. Afghan Historian 20:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello Anu,thanx for leaving message on my page,i am happy that wikipedian are trying to help each other. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khalidkhoso (talk • contribs).
[edit] thanx for help
Thanx for Help .i am also looking for one more Tag that is aqurim Fish? do you have idea abut it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khalidkhoso (talk • contribs) 04:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
Hi\Qirpaso\Kewl\A.Salam
Kahra Hal Ahain(in Sindhi)(how r u). :P Changi Gai(Balouchi)(how r u ). lolz
again thanx,Anu ,I have add fish tag in my profile but i just like to add aquarium fish (tag) rather then any other (just)fish, I love to eat fish but aquarium fishes are like pets, so i want to show that i am interested keeping aquarium fish as my pet. I do not feel comfortable keeping fish(tag) on my page because it does not show either I am interested eating it or keeping it as pet, but if i will keep aquarium tag that means pet.are you getting my point?
Ciao Khalidkhoso 06:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] again need Help
Hey Anu ,thanks for help ,i need help agian,but i need your favor this time. I have seen some topics here Regarding balouchistan ,some users are writing every thing on favor of Govermenet.But i want to be much neutral. Tell me how to get that topic so that neutral pages so that no buddy should write bogus on it.
Khalidkhoso 10:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
WaSh(sweet of u,balouchi word) Anu. yeah ur article is much helpful to me, I have some local news papers articles(daily kawish most regulating sindhi news paper around the world) can i use it as my source but those are in sindhi, what about bibliography written by Khan of Kalat(former) himself
Khalidkhoso 04:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Anu,i can speak Urdu but i am not good in it my ancent does not support me lolz(but who cares).Yeah that Aqurim fish looks cute on my page,BTW sounds that u r also fisher lover bcoz u selected cute fish.after using both tags of my page( aqurim fish\tag of Ancient Grecee) i feel better.Should i Thank u again,i better find other word,becuase i been using it alot (heheheh). Sadain Gud(Always with You)(we say it in sindhi when we leave each other,we sindhi peopls do not use word bye).
Kahra Hal Aahin (how r u ,sindhi) waja changi(youth how are u,balouchi)
i am again here for you to help me ,I have seen one article and i wanted to make changes in it. here it is(it is talk page, I popup one matter there) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sindhi_people#where_to_put_these_cast.5Ctribes_names
but problem with me is that i do not know the origin of these cast\tribes and in article all things are categorized, I do not know what to do and where to put these tribes .But for sure these are sindhi cast\tribes they been living here for generation. and they speak sindhi only(not even balouchi ,like balouchi tribes in sindh,or sarki language).
--Khalidkhoso 06:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi anu,i am trying to change this article ,but i can not find sindhi Script on my window to add words on article? how that is done beacuse there 52 alphabet in sindhi,out those 5 r orginal sindhi and 47 are arabic.but on this page it is written all 52 are arabic that is worng. i have study sindhi for 12 years i know about it.can i saw images on it?i mean or scan book and or write and then put image of those alphabets?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhi_language
--Khalidkhoso 07:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Afghanistan
I have noticed your edits in Afghanistan and I have reverted your changes, because they were wrong. "Afghanistan" does not translate to "Afghani place" ... it means "Land of Afghans". The "i" in the Western transcription "Afghanistan" does not reflect the original Persian: افغانستان Afghān'stān where the "i" does not exist. It's a non-written vowel in between the "n" and the "s" that is a typical phenomen in Middle Eastern languages: two consonants are splitted by a non-existing, smooth vowel. In this case, it's an "i" or an "e". So, the correct transliteration of افغانستان would be "Afghan'stan" - "Land of Afghans". "Afghani place" does not make any sense ... neither in English nor in Persian. Tājik 10:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thx for your replay. I know the meaning of -stan in Sanskrit ... in fact, it has the same Indo-Iranian root. However, "Afghanistan" is deffinitly derived from Persian and thus, the only correct translation would be "Land of Afghans". Tājik 21:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Pashtun People
I do not believe India is the home to some 11 million Pashtuns which is histoically impossible. I need to see a proper Indian census on Pashto-speakers before I agree to any changes to the article based on demographics. Also, Urdu is a separate language than Hindi which draws large influence from Farsi and Arabic. If you cannot understand that very basic fact, than you got problems. Dilip Kumar is known for his acting achievements and not his political tendencies. Plus, people want to know who Pashtuns are and not what they are doing currently. You are welcome to add that info on his article. Thank you for understanding my situation.--Napoleon12 5:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I still do not agree with the demographics. The article is about Pashtuns and not about Dilip Kumar or his personal hobbies. You are welcome to add that information on his personal page. Also, I am not going to debate with you on the origin of Urdu since Pashto is my first language. So, you know my answer. You should be ashamed that your government never conducted a proper census on ethnic and religious lines. Why don't you write an article about Muslim misery in India as reported by the BBC. [[1]]. Khuda Hafiz.--Napoleon12 5:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] how to clean mess
Yar anu,i am very upset ,realy can not belive peoples are having so much joke with history .i checked Moen-jo-daro page ppls were fighting including me to put india or pakistan page or keep both off,it is strange that ppls consider sindh as indian which was itself a countries in history,wel i do not have to talk about it,even then i visit Raja Dahar page,it was strange to see india flag on it,he was son of Sindhu rather then indian. anu i knw u r indian but i feel sorry that ,why ppls doing so.now i seen big mess ,joke with history i was reading story abut sassi\panhu ,they written fake story.ok even it is true,but that story does not belong to them inclduing other,what i amn trying to say is that Shah Abdul Latif written that story in his poetry in 16 hundred if some one else is writing that same story in other language in 18hundred that story does not belongs them anyway(it is like some one will write Rome Julite now and peopls say he wrote it ,no sorry,it was written by Shakispir long before ,so that belongs to him). i have refrence in sindhi and english i am writting those here now tel me what to do ,i changed one story ,but i m feared some one will revert putting in confilit topic.but this is not solution .Please help me here are source
http://www.geocities.com/thebhittai/lateef15.html http://home4.pacific.net.sg/~makhdoom/bhitai.html http://sufiblog.com/shah-latif-bhitai.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Abdul_Latif_Bhittai
about story i changed(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassi_Punnun#References).
he is Punjabi poet wrote same story in (17th century ,same thing is already written by Shah Abdul Latif in 16th century)
( are Mirza Sahiba, Sassi Punnun and Sohni Mahiwal. There are several poetic narrations of the story, the most famous being Heer Waris Shah written in 1766. It tells the story of the love of Hee)
why this mess.
Sadin Gud
Note: i know urdu can i speak\read\write it,but give much prefrence to balouchi\sindhi\english then trun comes of hindi\urdu
(sorry for typo erro and mess) --Khalidkhoso 13:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] qaseeda
What is that? I came across it on the Krishan Bheel page, which btw needs urdu script.Bakaman 21:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] JS
// Admin-like RC Patrol tools document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:VoA/monobook.js' + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
Enjoy your revert button and happy vandal fighting.--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 11:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Put the thing above on your monobook
The thing above is the tool I use. It is a rollback button.--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 01:20, 21 December 2006
Look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sir_james_paul/monobook.js. It has the right code on it.--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 01:39, 21 December 2006
[edit] Regarding changes in Sindhi_people
Sain MahirBani (sain=respectable word for friend\landlrod\teacher\head\lord,mahir bani=thanks). Perfect Place for Tribes. Mmmm,nice work i am glad you found way to place it. Well i could not do it but you did it .it is perfect place for those things to be there. Lukh Thora (millions of thanks,NOte:we do not have thousands of thanks or hundreds for thanks, Just million of thanks :P ).
--Khalidkhoso 04:29, 21 December 2006
[edit] According to You sindh was part of India ,read refrence here
http://www.geocities.com/pak_history/Sindh.html
Both the words India and Hindu are derived from Sindhu, which, in Persian became Hind and Hindu (the letter H substituted for S) and in Greek and Roman, Ind (the letter S of Sind having being dropped). The meaning of the word Sindhu is water, referring to the great river.
The Aryans called the whole of Pakistan, Kashmir and East Afghanistan as Sapta Sindhu.
This distinction continued for centuries. Arab geographers, historians and travellers also called the entire area from the Arabian Sea to the range of Kashmir mountains Sind.3 As such, there were always two countries in the sub-continent -- Sind and Hind
Thus, even for the Aryans there were two countries in this sub-continent: Sapta Sindhva and Bharat Varsa.
The Assyrians in the 7th century B.C. knew the north-western part of the sub-continent as Sinda. However, when India began to be called Hind by Persians and Arabs, and Ind by Greeks and Romans, the local people continued to call their land, Sind.
http://www.sindhila.com.pk/SINDH.HTM
Sindh begets its name from the river ‘ Sindhu’, which is primarily the original name of the river 'Indus’(Greek Sinthos, Latin Sindhus). Over the centuries it has been subjected to considerable name deviation, which are phonetic variations of root word "Sindhu". Linguistically, there have been various theories put forward accounting for the oscillatory behaviour of this name Folk/Oral history says, "Sindh" means green land and "Sindhu" means source of greenery".
http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~makhdoom/history.html
Jeejal-i AmmarR-i SindhrRi - The Mother Of Civilizations (lovely enternal mother)
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Islamic_Onslaught.htm
The day Muhammad bin Qasim, entered Sindh as a conqueror
http://www.hospitalityclub.org/hc/hcworld.php?region=336
It was in 326 BC the Alexander the Great came to Sindh and captured the main towns along the river. The great Maurya Dynasty ruled Sindh in the third and second centuries BC. Buddhism flourished here during this time. Buddhism was gradually replaced between the sixth and eighth centuries by the Hinduism which introduced the caste system.
http://inic.utexas.edu/asnic/subject/peoplesandlanguages.html
Although the Arabs attacked Sindh earlier, it was
http://www.travel-culture.com/pakistan/history.shtml
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/iranic_identity_of_mauryas1.php
He was a relation of king Sahasi of the Rai Dynasty of Sindh, whom Hiuen
Hope you will get some information from these link.it is sindh,it was sindh not india\hindustan\Baharat. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khalidkhoso (talk • contribs).
You are too quick.i did not expect it that i would get answer ,it shows u love Wikipedia ,when i send you question i get answer an instant that is kinda awesom. i seen articel and you made good d improvment,i just seen lots of red colour tags? that means we have to write about those and create those articles too? then it will take months to complete it beacuse i add many tribes and those r red tag. Balouch orinentation living in sindh are called as Barouch(Sindhi but balouchi heritage),they hardly called as Balouch .Yeah Balouchi living in balouchistan are called Balouch even in Sindh but not us(who here for generations) yes i will teach you about My Heritage ,i wrote about it Khosa,Hooth,Rind. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khalidkhoso (talk • contribs).
[edit] Christmas
[edit] Anti vandalism tool
how do you likr the tool I gave you. It think it saves some time, do you?--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 01:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
It is nice to hear that you like it. Why don't you tell others about it, it will be helpful to them. Merry Christmas and god bless.--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 17:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
For your early Christmas greeting! Even in Australia it is still 30 hours away! I wish you a merry Christmas and Happy New Year likewise. GizzaChat © 06:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merry Christmas to you to brother!
Thank very much for that wonderful card and message dear Anupam. Sadly, I do not know how to make one myself, I don't have the skills. But by next year I will! ;)
For now, I want to say Merry Christmas to you and I hope you have a wonderful time with your family and get great gifts! ;)
Merry Christmas dear Anupam to you and your family! God bless! :D --- Parsiwan 08:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Happy X-Max
Marry Christmas Happy X-max Tree Thanx for Beautiful message\image. True ,one day jesus will come and Save us from Sorrows.May Allah Listen Your Prayers
Khalidkhoso 08:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
i was blocked and i do not know why.May be my IP address was used by some other user,at last they allowed to edit things are now i am back.Hope u r having Great Holidays ,after few days i will on leave too and will miss Wikipedia and You and some other users here. i liked those sindhi script sites that u sent me,i hope u must have put much efforts to find,it is great site ,i liked it.U always been Helpful to Me.
Hey did u listen that song "Come back Jesus Save the World?" by C brother(indian singers).
سداين گڏ (this is little bit incorrect ,i try to write in sindhi but could not find all words but i tryed to write .Hope u like it in its orignal form)
Khalidkhoso 07:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Anu ,i am here till saturday .Yeah i will use those templates when i am away from wikipedia.i am still search song,i think those lines in middle of song so i could not search it ,it been long time i heared that song.anyways i will send u some good songs,hey which language do u like to listen for songs and who r ur favourite singers? Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 10:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] merry x-mas
it's still the 23 where i'm from.--D-Boy 10:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] X-Mas
I wish you a merry X-Mas, too :) Tājik 14:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] And Merry Christmas to You
Thanks for the lovely holy day greeting, KP Botany 16:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Christmas
Merry Christmas to you too!! Mar de Sin Speak up! 17:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for your Christmas wishes. My best wishes to you also. - Taxman Talk 01:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, and wish you the very same love you presented me. Enjoy the festive season! Cheers!--thunderboltz(Deepu) 06:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Merry Christmas to you, Anupam. Thanks for the greeting! Sarayuparin 07:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
To Anupam, happy holidays! and have yourself a merry Christmas!--NisarKand 12:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting. A merry Christmas to you, too. –jonsafari 23:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindkowans
Hmm, that depends. Many do see themselves as Pathan or Pashtun, particularly people like Imran Khan. Others pride in their separate identity. I dont know, however, what Shah Rukh Khan identifies as, so I dont know what to call him. In any case, either's he's a Hindkowan or a Pathan, he cant be a Pashtun in the strict sense of the word, as he does not come from a family that follows Pashtunwali, nor is Pashto or Hindko his mother tongue. Dilip Kumar, however, is a Pashtun, as he speaks Pashto and actually hails from the North West Frontier Province. Afghan Historian 03:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Good call on salwar kameez
When there's a possibility of people arguing about who gets to be first, alphabetizing is the way to go. Nice solution. Thanks. Zora 04:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi
Hi Anupam, sorry, you were right. I guess I read the Ethnologue entry a bit too fast and saw only the "co-dialect" statement at the end of the 'Comments' paragraph. The sentence you refer to does in fact mention 'Hindi' and 'Urdu' as varieties of Hindi:
"Formal vocabulary is borrowed from Sanskrit, de-Persianized, de-Arabicized. Literary Hindi, or Hindi-Urdu, has four varieties: Hindi (High Hindi, Nagari Hindi, Literary Hindi, Standard Hindi); Urdu; Dakhini; Rekhta."
Precisely the argument Christopher King made in "One Language, Two Scripts". I'll be more patient in the future!! Sarayuparin 19:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chand Raat
Anupam, the etymology of chand raat Sanskritic, as stated in article is basically correct. Is there an issue? Sarayuparin 23:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Anupam, I corrected the spelling of candra. Sarayuparin 00:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Interwiki
Hey. Please don't add interwiki links if on the other languages the articles have not been created. I am sure your intentions were good but, lately, I've seen a bots remove them a few times. It's not a big deal... just, the links are meant to show languages with actual articles--not possible ones. Thanks for your efforts with adding the scripts, however. :) gren グレン 02:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] reply
You too, thanks for those christmas wishes by the way. Afghan Historian 00:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Happy Eid,Happy New Year
Dear Anupam,
HAppy New Year,Eid,Eid Mubarak,chand Rat to You and Your Family with Love .Sadin Gud,Allah Hafiz KhalidKhoso
[edit] Re: Chand Raat
No problem! Go ahead! Szhaider 00:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Year
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I hope that you have a wonderful New Year and will party all night long. If you don't celebrate New year at this time well then happy early or late New Year and I still advise that you have a good time tonight!!! ¿Why1991 ESP. | Sign Here 22:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |  |
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| This is for your Tireless work in reverting vandalism. Enjoy your new barnstar Sir james paul 22:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC) |
You deserve this so much. Anyone with over 2500 edits that does not have a barnstar deserves to get one. You also got it because you have had 300 or more edits every month for the last 6 full months and you have a lot this month also. Keep it up. Happy new year!!!!!!!. --Sir james paul 22:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- You should of known that even without a barnstar. I am sure that many people think that you are a great editor. Keep up the good work. --Sir james paul 22:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations Anupam u Deserve this medal ,well wikipedian administrators are late but they realized u r worth. I was away for week could not touch computer(with internet).anyways Congratulations again
Khalidkhoso 04:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for uploading the template "Indo-Iranian nations"
However, you should also add a few other nations to the list, for example Uzbekistan (Persian-speaking Tajiks, ca. 30% of the population), Azerbaijan (Tati and Talysh), and Turkey (Kurdish and Zaza, more than 20% of the population), where significant Iranian-speaking communities live. Tājik 13:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Pashtuns
The problem is that the History of India discusses highly speculative history (such as the Mahajpandas) and is peripheral like the History of Iran. The article is already too broad in scope and needs to remain in the region of Pashtunistan. India's involvement is largely peripheral and not directly linked like that of Iran. As for the geography, well it's actually South-Central Asian and also culturally and linguistically closer to the Middle East (along with other Iranian peoples). The South Asian link comes from its association in the east with Pakistan and its eastern provinces as well as the legacy of British India. Also Indo-Aryans aren't an ethnic group and the genetic tests show that the links are actually with other Iranian peoples and the only Indo-Aryan speaking peoples related are the Hindkowans (whom I added myself). These references DON'T reflect what encyclopedia articles denote about the Pashtuns or reference books. The Pashtuns aren't a difficult to describe group, but I don't see how they are related to people such as the Bengali people. Related ethnic groups are immediately parallel geographically and include the Tajiks (closest), Hindkowans, Nuristanis, Dards, and a few others. Nor are the Iranian peoples an ethnic group so much as a series of ethnic groups who all seem to show a relatedness factor that does not link them directly to the Indo-Aryans who have long since separated and moved to India where they merged with local groups. Indo-Iranian is also a language group. The article I originally wrote was meant to make this clear. The Pashtuns are there own group and their relatives are those who live next to them. Indo-Aryans aren't for the most part, related. The article can't emphasize links that aren't particularly notable. Tombseye 05:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, your point about the Dards is a valid one. I think we should change it to the Pashai and Kohistanis which is more valid as they live in close proximity to the Pashtuns. I do agree that the Pathans of India are a large group, but my reason for not including them is b/c no encyclopedias do and neither do reference books. They COULD have an article of their own though, which may or may not work since the terminology used is confusing. By that I mean that many people in South Asia refer to Pashtuns as Pathans as well as referring to Hindkowans, Afghans in general and those of putative ancestry in addition. This makes things very confusing. I realize that people perceive things in terms of traditional views as well (while writing other articles with Khoikhoi we have come across views that are either nationalistic or simply veer away from encyclopedic standards) and so the Pathan/Pashtun divide may be disagreeable to some, but unless the usage changes in other encyclopedias, it will have to remain a reference to Pashto-speakers and others who are at least bilingual (which we've done). I will make the changes to the Dards as per your suggestion. Tombseye 05:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] I will be Getting Different IP address now.,.....
Hello Anu how ru ,do u know how to create templets? if yes then lemme know i want to create few for myself too. i have problem,now i will be moving much of time so i will be getting different IP address every time,so tel me what to do,i do want to get blocked as i got last time?this will happen most offten and same IP address might be used by some one else too :{ Said Gud Khalidkhoso 13:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
OMG :P Anu, it is Realy Beautiful ,specially Sankarti(or Gurmukhi).i am bascailly one who support sindhi should have been in Sansakrti Script,anyways things are gone so i am ok with arabic script now too. Nop,do nt make changes ,keep it here on this link and add it to ur Page too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sindhi_Wikipedians
Sadin Gud
Khalidkhoso 06:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Anu U Forgot to add this to Your page :P Category:Sindhi Wikipedians
W salam i saw ur comments ,thanks .Yes u r true i do not have any Sindhi ancestry but we been living here for generation and i speak good sindhi and write,if i would not call myself sindhi then who will?If we c history then u will count in finger tips the number of Sindhi ancestry.No i am not Indo-Aryan at all. according to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balouch , i am either Persians, Kurds, Arabs and other Iranian people.I belive that we are Arab ancestry.My grand mother was kurd. Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 10:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indo-Aryan_Wikipedians
Well,u may not be sindhi but sindhi is indo-aryan ,keep tag as ur Group mate lolz(indio-aryan unity)(just being funny)
Hey Anu in these both articles same data is used(both are showing same languages ,as i do not know much about it.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Iranian_languages
(The contemporary Indo-Iranian languages form the largest sub-branch of Indo-European, with more than one billion speakers in total, stretching from Europe (Romani) and the Caucasus (Ossetian) to East India (Bengali). SIL in a 2005 estimate counts a total of 308 varieties, the largest in terms of native speakers being Hindustani (Hindi and Urdu, ca. 540 million), Bengali (ca. 200 million), Punjabi (ca. 100 million), Marathi and Persian (ca. 70 million each), Gujarati (ca. 45 million), Oriya (ca. 30 million), Kurdish and Pashto (ca. 25 million each) and Sindhi (ca. 20 million).)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_languages
(SIL International in a 2005 estimate counted a total of 209 varieties, the largest in terms of native speakers being Hindustani (Hindi and Urdu, about 540 million), Bengali (about 200 million), Punjabi (about 100 million), Marathi (about 70 million), Gujarati (about 45 million), Oriya (about 30 million), and Sindhi (about 20 million), with a total number of native speakers of more than 900 million.)
Khalidkhoso 10:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bye
I'm leaving. --Sir James Paul, La gloria è a dio 01:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- I am going to instead edit a little less so I have time to grow in my relation with god. --Sir James Paul, La gloria è a dio 02:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] how to Redirect
i have been working on this page since long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baloch_tribes and i have written many tribe names but problem is that when i look for tribe i get other link and category which have few tribes names so can u help me to redirect that to my work?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Baloch_tribes(from this to below page \redirect) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baloch_tribes(this final link).
Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 09:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
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Khalidkhoso 18:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for comments but anu u r not understanding ,if they are allowed to use many tags then there will be 100 of tags and 100 of tags?i have few freinds in Jeay sindh (if they come up with tag and flag too)and some r in tarki pasand,SNMF,SNP and many more,do u want they all should have there tags and falgs on page?if then i will be the 1st to upload all pic makeing the page political but i am trying to make it neutral.that's why i used Ajruk ,which is not flag nor political stuff?
Khalidkhoso 12:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with ur comments of correction of grammer and Just showing one template that u created.it is on my watch list so i keep eye on it. Thanks for give us so much time me(and my topics). Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 04:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tere Bin
I changed it back to your version. Note that the devanagari spelling of the name is incorrect. The "i" maatra is attached to the "n" letter and not the "b" letter; consequently, as currently written, it sounds "bənɪ" instead of "bɪn." Unfortunately, I don't know how to write in devanagari using unicode. (BTW, does it require special software?) Fowler&fowler«Talk» 08:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Anupam, for the Devanagari software! It works beautifully. Using it, I was able to correct the spelling of Tere Bin. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Page for protection
Hello Dear Anu do u like actor anupamkhir ,he is good actor BTW. i am here to ask u for help. this page is countious under attack by one user thinking as he owns page,every time i edit he does same.i ask him to disscuess he is try to make it more political then neutral. can u ask for protection of this page.i been on protection page but could not understand ,if u could do me favour please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sindhi_Wikipedians
Khalidkhoso 14:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
At last i made it ,i have requested for page protection.
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Dear read this.
http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/journal/vol4no1/karachi.html
http://www.ploughshares.ca/libraries/ACRText/ACR-Pakistan.html
http://www.jochen-hippler.de/Aufsatze/Nation-Building_in_Pakistan/nation-building_in_pakistan.html
It was an exclusively Muhajir party of secular, middle class orientation. Rumor has it that Zia ul-Haq’s Islamist government had a hand in setting it up, to subvert the power of the main opposition party, Benazir Bhutto’s PPP in Sindh. This cannot be confirmed, but the result was exactly that, as its existence led to a civil war in Karachi. The struggle for power between the Muhajirs and Sindhis in the province of Sindh became one of the major destabilizing factors in Pakistan, arresting economic development in the country’s main commercial and industrial center.
The Battlefields of Karachi: Ethnicity, Violence and the State
By Vazira Fazila-Yacoobali
Vazira Fazila-Yacoobali is a graduate student in Anthropology and History. Najeeb Jan is a graduate student in History.
Paramilitary rangers in armored vehicles warily patrol the narrow back-streets of a residential neighborhood in the city of Karachi, Pakistan. A few months ago the presence of state security forces would have surely ignited a fierce gun battle in this middle-class Muhajir locality, a strong support base for the Muhajir Qaumi Mahaz Party. But for now a weary calm prevails as boys playing cricket in the street move to make way for these guardians of a fitful peace. Muhajir (literally "migrant" in Urdu) refers to those Muslims from Central and Northern India who migrated to Pakistan at the time of Partition in 1947. Thousands of Muhajirs, largely from urban middle-class backgrounds, poured into Karachi, transforming this small trading town in the province of Sind into Pakistan's most important industrial and port city.(1) But recently, this rapidly expanding metropolis of eleven million inhabitants has become an urban theater for what many have described as a virtual civil war between the security forces of Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's government and a heavily-armed, ethnically-based political party, the Muhajir Qaumi Mahaz (MQM or Muhajir National Front), which claims to represent the interests of Karachi's six million Muhajirs.
Last year alone over 2,000 people were killed as a result of political violence. Entire Muhajir neighborhoods were transformed into battlefields as MQM youth fought with army rangers from the sandbagged balconies of apartment buildings. Despite government claims of having subdued the MQM militants, the death toll for 1996 has already reached 300.
Parties to the Conflict:
1) Government
As of October 1999, led by Chief Executive General Pervez Musharaf following the overthrow of the government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a military coup. Under the previous Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, the government engaged the Pakistani Police Force, Paramilitary ‘Rangers’, and troops from the Frontier Corps (Constabulary) in the conflict.
2) Armed groups: Several parties opposed to the government (and each other) are involved in the violence. These are seen to be primarily ethnic or religious groups. In addition, criminal elements, some working through the groups listed below, also contribute to the violence, a legacy of Pakistan’s involvement in the war in Afghanistan and the related drug trade. a) Sindh nationalists:
-Jeay Sindh (Qadir Magsi Group) (b) Mohajirs-based groups: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khalidkhoso (talk • contribs) 15:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC).
For the sindhis support of the MQM see the links. [2] [3] [4] [5].
This public meeting was held in Lyari Town which is mostly a sindhi-baloch speaking area.Sindhii 06:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed a vote on the talk page of Category:Sindhi Wikipedians please respondSindhii 12:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The problem has been solved see the talk page Category:Sindhi Wikipedians and by the way more on the sindhis support of the MQM see [6].Sindhii 16:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] VandalSniper
You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --Chris (talk) 19:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Doosra NPOV?
Sorry. I dont agree with you on this one. There is no need for the hindi text since the article is not about the Word, but the cricket throw. An introduction is only given because a Pakistani cricketer inventing the move. Hindi is not related to this subject. The Cricketers language is Udru, and he was using urdu when referring to the term. 20:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)Unre4LITY
[edit] WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 1 - January 2007
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[edit] NPWatcher approval
You've been approved to use NPWatcher. Please give me any feature requests or bugs. I'm also happy to help if you have any problems running the program, or any questions :). Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if I've made a new release (or just add the main page (here) to your watchlist). Finally, enjoy! Martinp23 11:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- No problem - thank you for your interest in the program - there's currently one annoying bug which is caused by a dodgy internet connection the the Wikipedia servers, but this is likely to be a problem at the Wikipedia end rather than the user end. Thanks again, Martinp23 23:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Please read
Hi, You might want to read my post: Talk:Saare_Jahan_Se_Achcha#Words_and_Meanings and give your feedback there. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] You are invited to join WikiProject Dravidian Civilizations
Hello,
I have seen your editings on Tamil people and Dravidian people and would like to take the opportunity to invite you to our group. This group is open to all who are interested in contributing to any topic related to the Dravidian civilizations. If you are interested, please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Dravidian civilizations and post your name in the Members section. Regards.
Wiki Raja 21:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
| “ | Thanks for inviting me to join the group. I will be glad to help out with the project. By the way, I was reading your userpage and find it to be very interesting. I saw some minor errors and took the liberty of fixing them. Urdu and Sindhi are generally considered to be Indo-Aryan languages. As a result, I moved them to that section of your chart and added Pashto and Tajik under your "Central Asian" section. For additional information, Sindhi is also written in Devanagari and Punjabi is also written in Perso-Arabic. I hope you don't mind. ;) With regards, AnupamTalk 22:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | ” |
Thank you for joining. Thanks for taking the time to look at my userpage. By the way, I was listing the Urdu, Hindi, Tamil, etc by script category rather than langauge. But, thanks for pointing that out since now I may be labelling them by script name to avoid confusion. (ie. Devanagiri (Indo-Aryan), Vattelutu (Dravidian, circular scripts)). Can you help me out here? What would be the name of the syle of script used for Urdu, Sindhi and Pashto which resemble Arabic? Thanks.
Wiki Raja 23:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hey
Sorry I had to revert your edits to Pashtun people. I moved all the categories Category:Pashtun people, which makes it redundant to list them again on the main article. In regards, to the CE/AD thing, this guy once told me that "the preference of the first major editor should be adhered to." Since a great deal of article was written and expanded by Tombseye (he was the one who made it an FA), I think we should leave it how he originally had it (using "CE" instead of "AD"). Regards, Khoikhoi 22:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I see what you're saying. When the article was an FA, I remember that it used BCE/CE. As for your second point, I think it's not really an English issue, but more of a religious one. IMO, CE is more neutral and appropriate for Muslim topics, while AD is better for Christian topics. Phir milengay, Khoikhoi 03:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A little Thank You on Dravidian people Talk page
Hello again,
Just wanted to let you know to check the Dravidian people Talk page for a little thank you note posted. Regards. Wiki Raja 01:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hindi Wikipedia
Namaste Anupam. Have you conisdered joining the Hindi Wikipedia? It is in terrible shape. Hindi is one of the top five spoken languages in the world yet there are other languages which are spoken by about a million people, such as Estonion and have a much better Wikipedia in terms of quantity and quality. Your help will be much appreciated. Dhanyabaad. GizzaChat © 23:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ajam / Hajjam
I just wanted to let you know that I removed your description of the Indian usage of Hajjam from the Ajam page. The Indian term "hajjam" is derived from the Arabic word hijama (barbers and cuppers often shared jobs). Ajam is entirely different. I suggest you create a new article for [[Hajjam]. --Zayed1 06:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] can u please help me to create Balouch Templete and Category
Hello Anu ,long time no c? how r u ? how is life ? and every thing. hey can i have little more help from You. can You please create Balouch Wikipedian Category and templete(i will upload picture for it) for me and please do let me know how to create those stuff ,so that in future i would created myself too.
Khalidkhoso 07:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Devanagari script additions
I see you have been busy inserting devanagari script equivalents in a number of Buddhism related articles. Sorry to be critical, but are you aware that many of the items are spelt wrongly, especially the Pali ? I do also wonder about the wisdom of putting Pali equivalents in devanagari script -- most people don't read it in devanagari. --Stephen Hodge 11:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- I was about to make the same point vis a vis the Pali. Pali is written in various scripts, and the Roman script version has no particular defects.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 17:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for your welcome message. NN 03:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RfC
Hi, I've started a RfC Talk:India#Request_for_Comment:_Adding_new_material_to_the_India_page_history_section. Any comments and feedback, at your convenience, will be welcome! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sindhi_literature
Hello dear how are you ,how is life. I am good reader of Sindhi writers from India so I am in favor of Indian tag on this topic. Dear I want you keep eye on this topic, revert it when it is vandalized. I am glad to see on sindhi pages.
Khalidkhoso 20:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good to know that you are Ok Anu.i was checking my page history some one vandalized my page anyways it happens here. You can see on my Discussion page I was on some other stuff.So could not send you Image for Balouch Wikipedian,rather say i am looking for Better Image or picture so that ,it should represent Balouch Community around the world. I will try to find good image as soon as possible and will inform you soon.
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thanks to local Admins that they reverted my page before i was online .They are fast and dedicated to work .i wish that you be admin here too :P Khalidkhoso 22:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Sure i will keep this page on my Watch List .sure i will translate both names into Sindhi Script written in pakistan Khalidkhoso 23:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Request for Peer Review
Hi there. Since you're on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Afghanistan, I thought I should let you know, that've requested a peer review for the article on Zohra Daoud here. I'll appreciate your feedback, thanks.Zainub 13:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] hi
Do you know what this User_talk:Hkelkar#.D8.A2.D9.BE_.DA.A9.D9.88_.DA.A9.DB.8C.D8.A7_.DB.81.D9.88.D8.A7_.DB.8C.D8.AD.D9.88.D8.AF.D8.9F is (ie can you translate)?Bakaman 01:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ArbComm
Dude you edits are being discussed at the India-Pakistan arbcomm case. Some fella is trying to make it sound as if you are a Hindutvadi....
Do comment. Amey Aryan DaBrood© 14:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
It is clearly, found from the censis that more than 2lac Gabol r living in sindh aras (38,000 in ghotki, abt 1 lac in dadu, more than 30,000 in karachi and considerable population in hyderabad, nawabshah sukhar and jacobabad). About 40,000 in punjab including Alipur, Muzafargarh, Rajanpur, Deraghazi khan and Bahawalpur. Also found in Balochistan in some thousands. could'nt know about their num in syria and iran but gabol being domki took their name from Persian river Dombak. what do u think ? thanx.... Irfan Gabol 11:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikify it
Hello Anu how are ,how Have You been Dear Can you please check grammatical mistakes in this article [[8]].Sadin GudKhalidkhoso 19:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for working on Gabol page.i am thinking to start topic on Sai Kumar(indian Tollywood actor). Hope i will get some help from you. Khalidkhoso 18:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Little Help
Check it Anu[[9]].Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 19:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just saw you in trouble so though to Help you.if my this Little Help can Help you not to get blocked.Sadin Gud Khalidkhoso 19:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] My Revert Ash Wednesday
My mistake, I must have accidentally double clicked RV cause I don't remember reverting that. Apologies.
Crazynas t 04:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Fixed, re: VP2 only people on IRC can use it (anyone can still use VP) so if you use IRC jump into #vandalproof and talk to me there.
Crazynas t 05:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scripts in the infobox
Hi! I noticed quite a few articles of UP with Devnagiri and Urdu scripts in the infobox. [10]. The scripts make the header look ugly and so too the locator on the image. While drawing up the infobox we had come to the agreement to keep off scripts from the infobox due to rendering issues. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] from Nadir Ali
Hi Anupam.Look I'd like to apologise for sounding so agressive on the talkpages like I once did.It's just that I was so frustrated and feel strongly over the subject.
Though I still disagree over many of these issues,I agree we must discuss it in a civil way otherwise how are we to reach a compromise? best regards.--Nadirali نادرالی
No i didn't endorse blocking you.I endorsed warning users from adding misleading alphabets to a certain country's alphabets.Szhaider's proposal is not to block you.It is to warn others from adding these scripts. You are not being blocked for this.No one is proposing a block for you.
Consider it part of a disagreement.Thanks alot for accepting my apology.Best wishes to you.--Nadirali نادرالی
[edit] Re: WikiProject Punjab
"avid contributor to Punjabi realated articles" you say. I strongly disagree with this statement. My concentration is on Pakistan-related articles. Pakistani-Punjabi-related articles might have come in my way during my efforts to improve Pakistan-related articles. Anyhow thanks for pointing out another orphan project related to Pakistan. I am trying to organize and refine WikiProject Pakistan. After I complete this project, I will take deep look at WikiProject Punjab. If you have any suggestions in this regard, I will be pleased to know them. Szhaider 22:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your support. Szhaider 23:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I understand your concerns but WikiProject Punjab is very one-sided and very Indian at the moment. If you check out Portal:Punjab, you see Manmohan Singh as the only current selected biography. A Pakistani edge is required. And again, just like a project has no sense of ownership over articles, joining a project and helping it now and then doesn't mean you must neglect other projects. — Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 06:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sindhi wikipedian template
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- I do not know if other admire your work or not.But for sure I will and I am Admiring it.Welcome.Khalidkhoso 04:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Criteria for barnstar
Hi, I want to know the criteria of getting the barnstar if one have to apply for it aur it is rewarded by any authority. Abulfazl 09:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re- Welcome
Hi Anupam, thanks for the warm welcome to Wikipedia, i appreciate that. As for joining WikiProject Pashtun i dont know if that a good idea. I by no means am any where close to being an expert on Pashtuns. Also with time constraints i dont think i can contribute as much as would be required for projects. Thanks for oferring though. If i do want to make a major addition/change to any Pashtun relatead article, i will discuss it with you on your talk page first, seeing that you are part of the project(hope you dont mind). IP198 00:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] I'm Back
I'm back from a month long break from wikipedia. How are you doing? Have a nice week and god bless. --James, La gloria è a dio 01:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Urdu keyboard DYK
Thanks for your kind wishes.--IslesCapeTalk 13:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thank You
Thank you for editing Saare Jahan Se Achcha per my request. --Webkami 09:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] From Qadeer Mangrio
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Anupam sahab !
bari nawazish aap ki sir lekin sir mery user page main koi hai kiya ? jo aap kah rahe hain ke thik karni hai wese sir mujhy to koi bhi galti nazar nahin aa rahe hai main na ya user hon agar kise bhi chez ki zaroorat pari to inshallah sab se pahly aap he se pochon ga
wese aap ko mery page galti kon se nazar aye
- Hey Qadeer Mangrio, it is Anupam nt Anupan. Khalidkhoso 19:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tools
I know of a even better tool I told you before. If you want it you can find it on my monobook. God bless:) --James, La gloria è a dio 20:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Soorry for spell mistake
je sir Anupam han yeh to hai meri english bohat kamzooor aap bikul use thik kar sakty
aur yeh aap ki bari mehrbani hogi
sir aik aur baat main ne aik toptic creat kiya hai Abdul Raheem Grohirri us ka information box hai us ko bhi agar thik karadian de to bari mehebai hogi
Regards,
[edit] thankx...
thankx anupum brother !
bhai jan aap se yeh bhi pochna tha ke (|)symbol ka koi keyboard shortcut hai kiaya ?
aur bhai main ne Dr. N. A Baloch or Nabi Bux Khan Baloch ka topic bhi creat kiya hai aap chek ker li jye ga
abhi adhora hai is ko complete bhi karan ahai ...
thankx again brother
Regards,
[edit] Re:Images
Hi Anupam - actually you might want to ask at WT:INB - I don't know of any such websites. If nothing comes up, I suggest you upload a picture of the subject using the fair use policy - in the absence of free alternatives, the use of a copyrighted image is permissable if only for educational purposes and if it does not compromise the commercial value. Cheers, Rama's arrow 03:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thankx again
thank you sir mery key Board main dar asla bana is tarqy se huwa hai ke do dot aik dosry ke opper nechy hain lekin abhi sab samjh main agay ajo nahin samjh main aya woh poch lon ga
Regard,
[edit] Heloo sir
Anupam Bhai !
sir kiya koi aisa tareka hai ke main apni topic naaam change kar sako
jese ke main ne misal ke toor per aik topic ka naaam TRIGATI diya hai ab badal ker TRIGHATI karna ho to kase karon
redirect ke ilawa koi aur tareqa hai
[edit] I am back
I am back,Thanks for message on my page.I think Mangrio Sahib also needs ur help as i do :} . Khalidkhoso 20:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Anu, i have checked links you sent me.As Rama mentioned in here[[11]],we can take some images from these sites.http://www.dishant.com/cast/Sai-Kumar.html Dishant: Sai Kumar],Sulekha Movies: Sai Kumar,Raga Lahari: Samanyudu 100 days Function,Telgu Style: Return of the super cop,Tollywood Talk: Andhra university announced Docterate to chiranjeevi,Desi Hub: Telugu Movies's Weblog - 'Karalu Miriyalu' on TCV committee,Raja Lahari: An Interview with Sai Kumar,Tollywood: Sai Kumar Movies],[Tollywood News Updates,Chennai Online: A book on Tollywood producers.What do you suggest.Allah Khair Kari(Allah Wahi,Sadin Gud).Thanks for being so much supportive and helping.Khalidkhoso 20:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Dear Anu ,site that you sent me is not sai Kimar .Here is Sai Kumar [[12]] ,so under which license should I upload pic. Sadin Gud. Khalidkhoso 22:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] As Wednesday
Some info you pout in is true, but you write in these sweeping generalizations. Much of what you put is Anglican tradition, in Anglican language, in internal Anglican controversies. .OK, but thats's not how Catholics do it, or Orthodox. Lutherans and Calvinists have liturgies too, even if ytou don't consider them "strict." HarvardOxon 03:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
"Liturgically, Lent ends with the first hours of Holy Thursday, when the Sacred Triduum begins," how is this ambiguous? The Triduum remain penitential days: that's not synonymous with "Lent." As for phraseology on the other question, why does there need to be anything inserted in what is already there at all? Many "low church" Christians also have some sort of blessing rite for ashes.HarvardOxon 04:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Umm, the Catholic Encyclopedia text quoted is from the 1911 edition....It's a century old. You will find a multitude of references in it that read as though the 20th Century never happened, because, in fact, it hadn't happened when it was written!. We've been through the 1917 vast revision of the Code of Canon law, the 1983 second vast revision, the revision of the Missal of Pius X, the second revision, particularly for Holy Week, of Pius XII, the post Vatican II complete revision of all liturgies, and several major adjustments in the 1980s and 1990s, the Second Vatican Council itself, and NINE popes since then. Things change. read the wikpedia article on Maundy Thursday itself...it mentions clearly that Holy Thuirsday is now the most usual use in the RCC.HarvardOxon 04:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] thank you
thank you Anupam bhai !
mery english bohat kamzoor hai is topic to bohat hain lekin english ke waja se ban he nahin rahe hain
wese main
sd.wikipedia.org
per kuch topic bana raaha hon kiyon ke wahan per to english ke zaroorat nahin parti lekin inshallah jo topic acha ban gaya us main se aap ko changes ka wa lon ga
Regards,
[edit] Evolution
Hey! I am back from my block:) Just to let you know I have left a comment on the Evolution talk page. I thought you may want to comment. God bless:) --James, La gloria è a dio 00:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Have a nice week and god bless:) --James, La gloria è a dio 02:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Lutheran Liturgy / Divine Service
Greetings, and thanks for the message. My biggest difficulty with the "Divine Service" article is its definate Missouri Synod bias--even the name, "Divine Service", is decidedly Missouri Synod terminology. If I ever do get around to working on a Lutheran liturgy page (or pages), I would like to be a bit more broad based (and, admittedly, my own knowledge of Lutheran liturgy comes much more from an ELCA-esque perspective). Right now, I think my own Wiki-contributing priority would be on improving / expanding the United Church of Christ page and related topics, but when/if I ever do get around to that, I certainly would like to expand / add more content related to both Lutheran liturgy and Reformed liturgy/worship. Peace, Emerymat 02:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
