User:Gangleri/tests/bugzilla:1691

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Contents 1 examples 1.1 11:56, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC) 2 explanations 3 addtional tests 4 see also 5 test links for pyWikipediaBot-users 5.1 links to items from sk:Category:Slovenské mestá 5.2 things to discuss 6 some links to de: 6.1 ú 6.2 š 6.3 š failures 6.3.1 from bugzilla:65#c17 7 MediaWiki, meta:PyWikipediaBot and en:Category:Diacritics

• bugzilla:1591 not 1691
  • This bug is a "duplicate" of bugzilla:65.
  • Bug #65 is fixed now, see bugzilla:65#c17. Thanks Brion!
• Bug #563 is fixed now, see bugzilla:563#c11. Thanks Brion!
• reported to pyWikipediaBot-users (see also meta:PyWikipediaBot)

[edit] examples

1. ro:Constantin Brâncusi
2. ro:Constantin Brancuşi
3. ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
4. ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
5. w:ro:Constantin Brâncusi
6. w:ro:Constantin Brancuşi
7. w:ro:Constantin Brâncuşi
8. w:ro:Constantin Brâncuşi

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1. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Orase în Slovacia
2. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe in Slovacia
3. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
4. ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
5. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Orase în Slovacia
6. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe in Slovacia
7. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia
8. w:ro:Wikipedia:Caterogizare/Categorie Oraşe în Slovacia

[edit] 11:56, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)

• #1 - #8 works properly at [[:de:], [[:en:]], sv: ... everywhere !

[edit] explanations

• Here are differnt links. Please look at what the link looks like and what title it targets.
• If you look at this page and compare #3 and #4 you will not see any difference. The difference will show up only if you edit the page.
  • The diffrenece is that #3 uses â or î ehile #4 uses for these characters the &#nnnn; encoding too.
• The examples are using three types of characters:

1. 7 bit
2. 8 bit
3. UTF-8 characters

• It is very strange that you can use either 8-bit characters in interlanguage (also InterWiki w:... at [[:en:]] only) links or UTF-8 characters in the link, see links #1 and #2 (and #5 and #6)
• If you click on link #3 the target will be somthing else.
• Only link #4 works.
• This behaviour is not transparent to the users using a copy and paste method to insert interlanguage links. It is discriminatory to a lot of languages using combined types and should be considered as a critical error. Users will not be aware that common method #3 will fail, that the very technical method #4 is required or that their interlanguage links will be remouved sooner or later. Gangleri | Th | T 17:06, 2005 Feb 25 (UTC)

[edit] addtional tests

• same examples at
  • at another Latin-1 type Wikipedia
    sv:Användare:Gangleri/tests/bugzilla:65
  • at a UTF-8 type Wikipedia
    de:Benutzer:Gangleri/tests/bugzilla:65

• #1, #2 and #4 works properly at [[:sv:] but #3 not
• #1 - #4 works properly at [[:de:]
• #5 - #8 will all fail because "w:" is used

[edit] see also

• nl: Categorie:Stad in Nederland&diff=0&oldid=846275 Compare shows the difference too.
• Mircea_cel_Batran&diff=7149984&oldid=6595353 Compare changed by User:Robbot

[edit] test links for pyWikipediaBot-users

• Notes:
• in order to document here "what you see as documentation" is coded differently as "what is coded in the links"; the usual method is used:

1. &#nnnn; stands for &#nnnn;
2. &#xnnnn; stands for &#xnnnn;
3. % stands for % for %
   an alternative would be % stands for % for %

• all links have been inserted with the copy and paste method
  if you make a preview you will see links

1. changed to &#nnnn; encoding and
2. containing characters in the range 128 - 255

• you should know that they will fail
• there are more "workarounds" to fix the links

1. using &#nnnn; encoding for all characters > 127
2. using &#xnnnn; encoding for all characters > 127
3. using hardcoded %nn for all characters > 127
4. a mixture of the methods above

• only #1 is described below
• see also: character encoding at User:Gangleri/tests/Unicode ISO 8859-1/Table of Unicode characters, 128 to 999

[edit] links to items from sk:Category:Slovenské mestá

• important note:
• Unicode ofers multiple ways to go.
  • "opticaly" the following two characters "seems" to be the same
    • uppercase letters
      • Š Š Š Š
      • Š Š Š Š
      • probably other more or less advanced Unicode or HTML coding
        Š Š (see alanwood.net)
    • lowercase letters
      • š š š š
      • š š š š
      • probably other more or less advanced Unicode or HTML coding
        š š (see alanwood.net)
  • because of "the exact match" for accessing titles with MediaWiki only one is allowed:
    • sk:Hnúšťa fails coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]
    • fails also as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]
    • works as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]

• sk:Hnúšťa fails coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]
  • fails also as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]
  • works as sk:Hnúšťa coded as [[:sk:Hnúšťa]]

• works also for all titles containing only characters A-Z, a-z and "-"
• sk:Category:Slovenské mestá works - only Latin-1
• sk:Category:Banská Bystrica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Category:Bratislava
• sk:Category:Fiľakovo works - UTF-8
• sk:Category:Humenné works - only Latin-1
• sk:Category:Poprad
• sk:Category:Sečovce works - UTF-8
• sk:Category:Žilina works - only Latin-1
• sk:Banská Bystrica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Banská Štiavnica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Bardejov
• sk:Bojnice
• sk:Bratislava
• sk:Brezno
• sk:Brezová pod Bradlom works - only Latin-1
• sk:Bytča works - UTF-8
• sk:Bánovce nad Bebravou works - only Latin-1
• sk:Detva
• sk:Dobšiná works - only Latin-1
• sk:Dolný Kubín works - only Latin-1
• sk:Dubnica nad Váhom works - only Latin-1
• sk:Dudince
• sk:Dunajská Streda works - only Latin-1
• sk:Fiľakovo works - UTF-8
• sk:Galanta
• sk:Gbely
• sk:Gelnica
• sk:Giraltovce
• sk:Handlová works - only Latin-1
• sk:Hanušovce nad Topľou fails coded as [[:sk:Hanušovce nad Topľou]]
• sk:Hlohovec
• sk:Holíč fails coded as [[:sk:Holíč]]
• sk:Hriňová fails coded as [[:sk:Hriňová]]
• sk:Humenné works - only Latin-1
• sk:Hurbanovo
• sk:Ilava
• sk:Jelšava works - only Latin-1
• sk:Kežmarok works - only Latin-1
• sk:Kolárovo works - only Latin-1
• sk:Komárno works - only Latin-1
• sk:Košice works - only Latin-1
• sk:Kremnica
• sk:Krompachy
• sk:Krupina
• sk:Krásno nad Kysucou works - only Latin-1
• sk:Kráľovský Chlmec fails coded as [[:sk:Kráľovský Chlmec]]
• sk:Kysucké Nové Mesto works - only Latin-1
• sk:Leopoldov
• sk:Levice
• sk:Levoča works - UTF-8
• sk:Lipany
• sk:Liptovský Hrádok works - only Latin-1
• sk:Liptovský Mikuláš works - only Latin-1
• sk:Lučenec works - UTF-8
• sk:Malacky
• sk:Martin
• sk:Medzev
• sk:Medzilaborce
• sk:Michalovce
• sk:Modra
• sk:Modrý Kameň fails coded as [[:sk:Modrý Kameň]]
• sk:Moldava nad Bodvou
• sk:Myjava
• sk:Nemšová works - only Latin-1
• sk:Nitra
• sk:Nová Baňa fails coded as [[:sk:Nová Baňa]]
• sk:Nová Dubnica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Nováky works - only Latin-1
• sk:Nové Mesto nad Váhom works - only Latin-1
• sk:Nové Zámky works - only Latin-1
• sk:Námestovo works - only Latin-1
• sk:Partizánske works - only Latin-1
• sk:Pezinok
• sk:Piešťany fails coded as [[:sk:Piešťany]]
• sk:Podolínec works - only Latin-1
• sk:Poltár works - only Latin-1
• sk:Poprad
• sk:Považská Bystrica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Prešov works - only Latin-1
• sk:Prievidza
• sk:Púchov works - only Latin-1
• sk:Rajec
• sk:Rajecké Teplice
• sk:Revúca works - only Latin-1
• sk:Rimavská Sobota
• sk:Rožňava fails coded as [[:sk:Rožňava]]
• sk:Ružomberok works - only Latin-1
• sk:Sabinov
• sk:Senec
• sk:Senica
• sk:Sereď works - UTF-8
• sk:Sečovce works - UTF-8
• sk:Skalica
• sk:Sliač works - UTF-8
• sk:Sládkovičovo fails coded as [[:sk:Sládkovičovo]]
• sk:Snina
• sk:Sobrance
• sk:Spišská Belá works - only Latin-1
• sk:Spišská Nová Ves works - only Latin-1
• sk:Spišská Stará Ves works - only Latin-1
• sk:Spišské Podhradie works - only Latin-1
• sk:Spišské Vlachy works - only Latin-1
• sk:Stará Turá works - only Latin-1
• sk:Stará Ľubovňa fails coded as [[:sk:Stará Ľubovňa]]
• sk:Stropkov
• sk:Strážske works - only Latin-1
• sk:Stupava (Slovensko)
• sk:Svidník works - only Latin-1
• sk:Svit
• sk:Svätý Jur works - only Latin-1
• sk:Tisovec
• sk:Tlmače works - UTF-8
• sk:Topoľčany works - UTF-8
• sk:Tornaľa works - UTF-8
• sk:Trebišov works - only Latin-1
• sk:Trenčianske Teplice works - UTF-8
• sk:Trenčín works - UTF-8
• sk:Trnava
• sk:Trstená works - only Latin-1
• sk:Turzovka
• sk:Turčianske Teplice works - UTF-8
• sk:Tvrdošín works - only Latin-1
• sk:Veľké Kapušany fails coded as [[:sk:Veľké Kapušany]]
• sk:Veľký Krtíš fails coded as [[:sk:Veľký Krtíš]]
• sk:Veľký Meder fails coded as [[:sk:Veľký Meder]]
• sk:Veľký Šariš fails coded as [[:sk:Veľký Šariš]]
• sk:Vranov nad Topľou works - UTF-8
• sk:Vrbové works - only Latin-1
• sk:Vráble works - only Latin-1
• sk:Vrútky works - only Latin-1
• sk:Vysoké Tatry - Mesto works - only Latin-1
• sk:Zlaté Moravce works - only Latin-1
• sk:Zvolen
• sk:Čadca works - UTF-8
• sk:Čierna nad Tisou works - UTF-8
• sk:Šahy works - only Latin-1
• sk:Šamorín works - only Latin-1
• sk:Šaľa fails coded as [[:sk:Šaľa]]
• sk:Šaštín - Stráže works - only Latin-1
• sk:Štúrovo works - only Latin-1
• sk:Šurany works - only Latin-1
• sk:Žarnovica works - only Latin-1
• sk:Želiezovce works - only Latin-1
• sk:Žiar nad Hronom works - only Latin-1
• sk:Žilina works - only Latin-1

• references: Slovak language

[edit] things to discuss

• it looks to be necessary to have an "alias" translation table for pywikipediabot; hopefully only one for Latin-1 and one for UTF-8 type wikis and not one for every language;

[edit] some links to de:

[edit] ú

• de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aaiún]]
    • de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aai&amp#250;n]]</nowiki>
    • de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aai&amp#xFA;n]]
    • de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aai&uacute;n]]
    • de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aai%C3%BAn]]
    • de:Aaiún
  • coded as [[:de:Aai%FAn]]
    • de:Aai�n
• all above works generating http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aai%C3%BAn

• en:Aaiún (nl:Aaiún, sv:Aaiún. etc.)
  • translated to forms similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aai%FAn

[edit] š

• de:Baška (Slowakei)
  • coded as [[Baška (Slowakei)]]
    • de:Baška (Slowakei)
  • coded as [[Ba&#353;ka (Slowakei)]]
    • de:Baška (Slowakei)
  • coded as [[Ba&amp#x161;ka (Slowakei)]]
    • de:Baška (Slowakei)
  • coded as [[Ba%C5%A1ka (Slowakei)]]
    • de:Baška (Slowakei)
  • coded as [[Ba%9Aka (Slowakei)]]
    • de:Ba�ka (Slowakei)
• all above works generating http://http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C5%A1ka_%28Slowakei%29

• en:Baška (nl:Baška, sv:Baška. etc.)
  • translated to forms similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aai%9An

[edit] š failures

• coded as [[Ba&#154;ka (Slowakei)]]
  • de:Baška (Slowakei)
• coded as [[Ba&#x9A;ka (Slowakei)]]
  • de:Baška (Slowakei)
• fails generating http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C2%9Aka_%28Slowakei%29

• coded as [[Ba&scaron;ka (Slowakei)]]
  • de:Baška (Slowakei)
• fails generating http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%26scaron%3Bka_%28Slowakei%29

[edit] from bugzilla:65#c17

• Brion:
  • NEVER use &#154; or &#x9A; for s-caron. Numeric character references always refer to Unicode code points, and U+009A is a reserved control character, *not* s-caron. It might appear to work sometimes due to a fluke and crappy workarounds for compatibility with a Windows bug, but should definitely not be relied upon. Use the real Unicode number, &#353;. The same goes for the other characters in the Windows CP1252 extended range (see ISO 8859-1#Windows-1252 ).
  • For the moment the only named character references that will work in links are the ISO 8859-1 ones (s-caron does not appear in ISO 8859-1). Stick with the numbers for now.

[edit] MediaWiki, meta:PyWikipediaBot and en:Category:Diacritics

• From the example above it can be seen that &<x>acute; is supported by MediaWiki and
• From the example above it can be seen that &<x>scaron; not.
• As you can see scaron are used in the code and titles:

1. en: Josef_Hir%26scaron%3Bal
2. en: Edvard_Bene%26scaron%3B
   By the way: Why Edvard Beneš is redirected to Edvard Benes? OK! If the [[:en:]] comunity wants this so it's fine for me

• Which of the HTML coding methods (see en:Category:Diacritics, [1]) are supported by MediaWiki and wich not? Wich are corrected by meta:PyWikipediaBot?
• Regards Gangleri | Th | T 05:47, 2005 Feb 26 (UTC)