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Contents 1 1 1.1 Welcome! 1.2 User:DataBoy 1.3 Beyond Lies the Wub 1.4 Family Guy Wiki 1.5 User:Humanbot update 03 June 2005 1.6 Re: Best laugh I've had in ages 1.7 Thanks for your support 1.8 User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005 1.9 Oops 1.10 Template:Locke Arrakon 1.11 User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005 1.12 My RFA 1.13 Crush by elephant! 1.14 Thanks 1.15 UK COTW: Transport in the United Kingdom 1.16 Category:UK Wikipedians 1.17 WB's image of American Idiot 1.18 My RfA 1.19 Thanks 1.20 Rollback and godmode-light 1.21 thanks for supporting me 1.22 Wikipedia:Mind Benders 1.23 UKCOTW: Cornish people 1.24 Re: 1.25 Futurama 1.26 W40k wikicity 1.27 Sango's RfA 1.28 Sasquatch's RfA 1.29 VfD pollution 2 2 2.1 Thanks 2.2 Wikipedia:Wikiportal/United Kingdom 2.3 kmccoy's RFA 2.4 UK COTW: Communications in the United Kingdom 2.5 Gaming Collaboration of the week 2.6 Func's RfA :) 2.7 Your username 2.8 Gaming Collaboration of the week 2.9 Yowser! 2.10 Picture of the Day 2.11 Smart Quotes 2.12 Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A. F. Gotch 2.13 Features article 2.14 Latin? 2.15 UKCOTW 2.16 DYK 2.17 Features article 2.18 User: Demogorgon's Soup-taster 2.19 Scimitar's RfA 2.20 thank you 2.21 Shooting Fish 2.22 Thanks for your support! 2.23 Regarding this week's Signpost 2.24 UKCOTW: Demographics of the United Kingdom 2.25 Requesting comments on template alteration 2.26 Meetup 2.27 ulayiti's RfA 2.28 Joolz's RFA 2.29 Signpost will probably be late this week. 2.30 Thanks! 2.31 Thank you 2.32 Signpost/In the news 2.33 My RFA 2.34 Android79's RfA 2.35 Heads up: minor edits on your paper to update it 2.36 Thanks awfully 2.37 Thank you for your vote 2.38 UK COTW: Ethnic groups of the United Kingdom 2.39 GordonWatts' RFA 2.40 The charter is here. (Relating to Esperanza) 2.41 Esperanza made less bureaucratic 2.42 WP:MIND 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC) 2.43 Notification Bot 2.44 The last time I'm spamming you all with Esperanza stuff 2.45 Signpost redesign. 2.46 RfA 2.47 TfD nomination of Template:Fair use music 3 3 3.1 Kevin Garnett photo 3.2 Wikimedia UK meeting 3.3 Stress 3.4 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Quietstorm 3.5 Esperanza Spam 3.6 Negative zero 3.7 Celestianpower is an admin 3.8 User:70.22.230.57 3.9 Imposter 3.10 Hermione1980's RfA 3.11 My RfA 3.12 Thank You For Welcoming Me 3.13 Frapper 3.14 Thanks 3.15 CBW RfA 3.16 Your RFA 3.17 Pikachu 3.18 British Sea Power 3.19 Promotion 3.20 Your RfA 3.21 Titoxd's RfA 3.22 Strong Work 3.23 TOUCH MY MONKEY! 3.24 Counter Vandalism Unit Elections! 3.25 Tomf688's RfA 3.26 My RfA 4 4 4.1 Break 4.2 Vigil 4.3 godmode-light.js 4.4 Psy guy's RfA 4.5 Welcome back! 4.6 Re: Holy cow 4.7 Barnstar 4.8 Thanks For Your Help On My User Page 4.9 Wikimedia UK 4.10 My RFA 4.11 Thanks 4.12 Thank you! 4.13 GraemeL's RFA 4.14 Looking for an honest opinion 4.15 Ianblair23's RfA 4.16 Walt Disney 4.17 Thank you 4.18 WP:MIND 4.19 The Smiths' "This Charming Man" 4.20 Happy Thanksgiving! 4.21 Please read 4.22 Re:Talk Page 4.23 Hi, The wub 4.24 Wikipedia:Wikifun 4.25 My RfA 4.26 Awolf002 RfA 4.27 My failed RFA :) 4.28 Yet Another RFA Thank You Note to clutter up your talk page... 4.29 Vandalism repair 4.30 Thanks... 4.31 Ann's RfA 4.32 Esperanza elections 4.33 R f A 4.34 My RfA 4.35 IP block request 4.36 SoLando's RFA 4.37 Thank You 4.38 Thanks... 4.39 re: 666666th user 4.40 News from Esperanza 4.41 Thank you! 4.42 You've been spammed again 4.43 My RfA 4.44 Another RFA thanks 4.45 SWD316 RFA 4.46 Wow, You've Got Alot of RFA Thank Yous here 4.47 Ianbrown's RfA 4.48 Thanks! 4.49 Adminship EdwinHJ 4.50 My RFA 4.51 you are a bad man 4.52 malo's RfA 4.53 Mon beau RfA 4.54 My RFA 4.55 Merry Christmas 4.56 Happy holidays! 4.57 I just had to say hi! 4.58 Adminship 4.59 CFD 4.60 Howcheng's RfA 4.61 RfA thanks from Deathphoenix 4.62 Thank you! 4.63 Esperanza election 4.64 Esperanza elections 4.65 Esperanza Elections 4.66 Esperanza Elections 5 5 5.1 WUB 5.2 COTW Project 5.3 On my departure... 5.4 Stopped being funny? 5.5 Mike Garcia gone or not 5.6 Rfa thanks 5.7 Greek literature a candidate at the Wikipedia:European Union collaboration 5.8 Merci beaucoup 5.9 This Charming Man 5.10 Thanks 5.11 Adminship 5.12 Thank you 5.13 1000 5.13.1 Explanation and Further Apology 5.14 My RfA 5.15 My RfA 5.16 My RfA 5.17 Thank you! 5.18 My RfA 5.19 Wikifun round 12 5.20 Wikipedia:Meetup/Birmingham 5.21 Asteroid deflection strategies won! 5.22 you are so correct 5.23 RfA Thanks 5.24 Thank you for voting! 5.25 Community Justice 5.26 An Esperanzial note 5.27 Wikipediology Elections 5.28 Featured Picture 6 6 6.1 Fair use image 6.2 Not a Democracy 6.3 Another Esperanzial note... 6.4 But the Joe came back... 6.5 Hello! 6.6 Hmm... 6.7 My user page 6.8 3000 6.9 =Lol n00b 6.10 Community Justice 6.11 My RFA 6.12 Great law! 6.13 Ignore the Arbitration 6.14 FYI 6.15 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 6.16 Thank you 6.17 Nice 6.18 Welcome Back! 6.19 Thanks... 6.20 Homer Simpson wins! 6.21 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1 6.22 My RfA 6.23 RFA 7 7 7.1 Thank you 7.2 RFA Thanks 7.3 My RfA 7.4 My RfA 7.5 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2 7.6 RFC 7.7 Goforit's RFC 7.8 Wikipedia:Community Justice 7.9 Happy Easter 7.10 Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections 7.11 CJ election reminder 7.12 Wikipedia.org portal design 7.13 Sorry to See You Go 7.14 Discordian year 7.15 Old Skool Esperanzial note 7.16 Just another RFA thank you note 7.17 This is Moe 7.18 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3 7.19 GA spam on featured template 7.20 User notice: happy birthday 7.21 Happy Birthday 8 8 8.1 Fair use debate regarding television screencaps 8.2 Ceiling cat 8.3 A short Esperanzial update 8.4 Depression Category 8.5 Help! with Tennessee Williams Article 8.6 Current events redesign 8.7 [3] 8.8 deletion 9 9 9.1 deletion 9.2 August Esperanza Newsletter 9.3 Category:British Cultural Icons 9.4 Bonk! 9.5 Wikipedia:Categories for discussion 9.6 Reqdiagram tag on Form constant 9.7 Thank you ... 9.8 AWB Checklist 9.9 September Esperanza Newsletter 9.10 Generation categories 9.11 RfA thanks 10 10 10.1 Diane Farrell article (why it should be undeleted) 10.2 DRV of Diane Farrell 10.3 Total re-write of the main Physics page is in progess 10.4 Current events link edit 10.5 Deletion of Category 10.6 Recat not needed 10.7 WP:UW 10.8 Sysop Day 10.9 Judd Winick in Famous Comic Book Readers Category 10.10 Stampede Wrestling alumni category 10.11 November Esperanza Newsletter 10.12 Checkuser clerk 10.13 Activity on Talk:Mordecai Richler 10.14 Concerned 10.15 WikiProject Munich 10.16 Canadian air marshals 10.17 Playboy Models 11 11 11.1 Rail transport timelines category rename 11.2 Clerk for Requests for Checkuser 11.3 E. Normus Category 11.4 Request for Comment 11.5 Query 11.6 Monifieth High School 11.7 spam 11.8 WP:UW 11.9 New day transclude for WP:CFD 11.10 Veteran categories 11.11 The abortion debate 11.12 Mornington Cresent 11.13 Help! 11.14 Category:Roman Catholic bishops in California 12 12 12.1 Help with my Userpage 12.2 Infantry Cat 12.3 recognition 12.4 RE:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Nintendude 12.5 Orphaned fair use image (Image:PTA disbands.png) 12.6 Snark 12.7 del sort 12.8 Newyorkbrad's RfA 12.9 Which tempate ... 12.10 Pages redirecting to themselves 12.11 CfD British royal consorts 12.12 Grand renaming ... 12.13 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Warhammer rulebook.gif) 12.14 Auckland 13 13 13.1 re: Category:Lists of Marvel Comics superhero teams 13.2 iw link 13.3 The Simpsons WikiProject 13.4 Plato 13.5 socks 13.6 Military Veterans 13.7 wiked custom button bar definitions have changed 13.8 Discussion 13.9 Deleted category 13.10 Mal-alignment 13.11 Disagreement over closing of CfD on Category:Dutch world champions in sports as 'delete' 14 14

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[edit] Welcome!

Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:52, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:DataBoy

thanks for cleaning up my wiki page, wub; this rocks!

(moved from user page --the wub (talk) 22:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Beyond Lies the Wub

I'm not sure if the plot summary in Beyond Lies the Wub is right, maybe you'd be the right one to check it. Kappa 09:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Family Guy Wiki

Hi. I noticed that you have made several edits on the article "Family Guy". You may be interested to know that I have created a new Wiki that is exclusively about Family Guy. Knowing you are an experienced Wikipedian and Family Guy fan, I sure would appreciate your help contributing to the Family Guy Wiki. We started on May 9, so we are in the starting stages. To check it out, click here.

Thank you,

--milkmanjb

[edit] User:Humanbot update 03 June 2005

On this day version two is released of the client-side User:Humanbot script. It allows you to browse the English Wikipedia on other tabs and edit it normally. en:User:Humanbot#Mailing list. r3m0t ^talk 09:44, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Best laugh I've had in ages

Hehe, you liked that? I thought it was fitting.. plus, I've got to show some WikiLove to my fellow hommies, you dig? ;-) Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 02:18, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:14, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005

Version two-two released today includes in that green box a nice count of how many articles are left. This more or less co-incides with the event of hitting only 1000 articles remaining. Also, I have re-arranged the User:Humanbot page to make it easier to get to the right stuff. Progress charts, wikicookies, wikilove and a more thorough spelling check is promised when this is completed. (and also when the exam pressure eases off a little on me) r3m0t ^talk 17:43, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) Note: If you think this message was too trivial for a mailing, tell me and I'll stick to more important announcements on the list.

[edit] Oops

Yeah, I totally forgot, they were screenshots I took with the PC game. The copyright goes to SEGA, right?

~Wraith89

[edit] Template:Locke Arrakon

Hi there :)

Thanks for adding Template:Locke Arrakon to TFD. Just in case you're wondering where your nomination went, I decided to use a bit of common sense and just speedily delete it to save everybody from wasting their time. Don't worry- you did the right thing by nominating it, but it's just such an obvious one there's no point in even voting, since the template namespace is supposed to be for templates. If you want to go through that process, you can be my guest and relist it (or let me know)— I just don't see the point.

Yours, Frazzydee|✍ 22:36, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005

The spelling2 project (to work on secondary namespaces) was opened and finished. Progress charts will be available soon.

Version six-three tracks who made the edits and rankings are available. Much of the work was done while I was asleep, explaining my low place ;).

The next project, which may even be released today, will probably fix incorrectly capitalised headings, particularly "See Also" and "External Links".

The mailing list has grown to 24 people and while that is very nice for my ego, it is rather difficult to send out updates. This is why I did not send out a notice that the spelling2 project had opened. From now on, then, you must watch User:Humanbot/announce for updates. r3m0t ^talk 12:00, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hi Wub! Thanks for finishing the heartening line of support votes on my RFA! Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:54, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Crush by elephant!

Thanks for that one in Tfd, very funny and unique. <>Who?¿? 16:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can't help thinking that you have no idea what you are talking about. Danny 11:09, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you for your vote of confidence in my skills on my RfA. I appreciate it very much. Regards, Bratsche^{talk 5 pillars} 14:23, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UK COTW: Transport in the United Kingdom

Hey, just to let you know, an article you supported, Transport in the United Kingdom, is this week's collaboration. Cheers! -- Joolz 19:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:UK Wikipedians

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 21:06 (UTC)

[edit] WB's image of American Idiot

Well. I don't care and you're not gonna stop me from removing his/her own image that was obviously uploaded by some god damned son of a bitch. But, that's it, please delete it. As I answered you at the talk page. -- Mike Garcia | talk 9 July 2005 19:18 (UTC)

And another thing, please stop reverting the edits on 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Green Day, you know PetSounds has the wrong information and if you continue this too, I'm tracking you off. -- Mike Garcia | talk 9 July 2005 19:21 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Dear "The wub" interesting name, made me tilt my head...

Whoa anyway, thank you VERY much for giving me a vote at my RfA. Keep on editing :D Redwolf24 21:04, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:31, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback and godmode-light

Hiya, The wub, I noticed you use the godmode-light script. As you use an emulation of the rollback feature I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on a proposal I have which would grant the rollback feature to those who request it, similar to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, except with a lower threshold. The proposal is at Wikipedia:Requests for rollback; your comments are welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Requests for rollback. Thanks! Talrias (t | e | c) 17:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Are you haveing any problems with it, because I can't seem to get it work, it just stops after Getting article history, in Firefox it gets to the second step (Getting article edit form...) before it freezes. --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 08:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for supporting me

Hello, just a quick note to express my gratitude for your support of my RfA. I'm sure I'll become a familiar face on places like the Administrator's Noticeboard and Requests for Adminship, as well as the murkier parts of my new job. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12:48, NIV) Never was a truer word spoken. I feel empowered, yes, but not in the "oooh cool delete button!" way I was kind of expecting. Already I feel the weight of the responsibility I have now been entrusted with, a weight that will no doubt reduce given time. Thank you for believing in me. :) Garrett^Talk 10:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Mind Benders

Hello, The wub/allarchive. Thank you for submitting an entry to the pre-round and/or participating in round one of WP:MIND. I sincerly hope you enjoyed it. Round Two, which I have made a bit more difficult than round one, will open at approximately 2 PM EST, Sunday, July 24. In addition, the voting for pre-round has also been extended until the end of round two. I hope to see you at Round Two, so prepare for some WikIFun!!! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 17:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UKCOTW: Cornish people

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW - Cornish people. Come and help out! Cheers -- Joolz 19:27, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

I replied to the first message at my talk page and to the band message at my band page. By the way I didnt know you liked Futurama :O Redwolf24 02:41, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Futurama

Greatest. Show. Ever! All glory to the hypno toad... unless, that is, you have a Hard-Shelled Whooping Terrier. jglc | t | c 15:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Just wanted to say I a agree with the above, and I like your hypnotoad picture :) MyNameIsClare talk 14:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] W40k wikicity

Hi. I'd really apreciate your offer for help. The wikicity is pretty new and I've been away on wacation so I haven't been able to add much. But hopefully it will become as comprehensive as for example memory-alpha in a while. Also suggestions for logo and css theme would be nice. --Dalen 17:14, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

• I've discovered that there is another wiki on Warhammer 40k called Lexicanum. I've taken the decision to abandon the Warhammer 40k wiki in favor of the Lexicanum wiki which has more editors. I've migrated most of the content (will migrate the rest soon). But I hope it's all right for you and that you come on over there as well. In case you want to continue the wikicities wiki I can give you administrator access. --Dalen 20:33, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sango's RfA

Hi, The wub. Thanks for supporting my RfA! I am honored to have your endoresment and hope to make good use of the mop. Sango123 01:41, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sasquatch's RfA

Thanks for your support on my RfA! Happy editting! Sasquatch′↔T↔C 04:56, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD pollution

Ril enlisted Persecution by Muslims for VfD again, just 24 hours after the article withstood the first VfD. You might be interested to watch it. [1] --Germen (Talk | Contribs ) 10:20, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks

Thank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 12:12, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiportal/United Kingdom

Thanks for updating the featured article and featured picture last week. Just for your information, there is a list of candidate articles and pictures, culled from WP:FA and WP:FP on the relevant talk pages which I try to keep updated, so we know which ones we have used. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:24, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Not a problem - I'm glad someone was looking at it while I was away recently. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:02, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I saw that you updated again (thanks! although I tend to leave longer than a week between updates: there are not all that many UK featured articles or pictures). I had a thought last week: maybe we should institute an "automatic" update system like is used on the main page or, for example, the Astronomy wikiportal - you need dated subpages where the articles are lined up, and the template links to the right one using a systems variable (currentmonth for example). A bit of work to set up, but then several features could be lined up well in advance, and no maintenance for a while. What do you think?-- ALoan (Talk) 22:09, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry - I will repeat 10 times - "slash not backslash" "slash not backslash" ... -- ALoan (Talk) 11:00, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kmccoy's RFA

Hey!

Thanks for your support and kind words on my RFA. :) kmccoy (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UK COTW: Communications in the United Kingdom

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW - Communications in the United Kingdom. Thanks Secretlondon 09:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gaming Collaboration of the week

You showed support for Gaming Collaboration of the week. This week Baldur's Gate series was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

Grumpy Troll (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Func's RfA :)

The wub, thanks for the dub, bub! :) I appreciate your vote on my RfA, thank you. :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e,  ) 03:28, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your username

Hi! I'll have to congratulate you on your excellent choice of username! Been reading Philip K Dick? :) - ulayiti (talk) 13:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

It's only a short story, about ten pages long, so it won't take more than a few minutes to read... and it's certainly worth it, it's one of his best works. (Can you tell I'm a big fan of Dick's?) :) - ulayiti (talk) 14:47, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, the book called Beyond Lies the Wub is a collection of short stories (which includes that one). If you're interested in his work, the short stories are a good place to start. If you want to get into novels, I'd suggest Ubik, Dr Futurity or Martian Time-Slip. - ulayiti (talk) 15:02, 11 August 2005 (UTC)</nowiki>

[edit] Gaming Collaboration of the week

You showed support for Gaming Collaboration of the week. This week Baldur's Gate series was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

Grumpy Troll (talk) 02:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Yowser!

Well I have to admit I wasn't really expecting to see a new edition of the Signpost this morning... but you wrote the lot yourself! Kudos, and a barnstar are due. If you want I can write the Featured section this week, and maybe some more in later weeks (just give me a little time to find my feet). the wub "?/!" 10:03, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks; it was a spur-of-the-moment decision to write a little, and it turned into a decent issue. But I really would love some help; it'd be great to have you write the featured articles. Leave a link on my talk page when they're done. ral315 21:27, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

Quick note; your deadline is 1 a.m. UTC tonight (9 p.m. EDT). I need your article by then. If you cannot write it up by then, leave me a note on my talk page ASAP. ral315 07:53, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of the Day

As suggested I've added a Picture of the Day RSS feed. Good idea! It's linked from Wikipedia:Syndication. Dze27 04:27, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Smart Quotes

Hi, why were you "killing the smart quotes" on Dark_Side_of_the_Moon? They look more professional than the inch characters in my eye... --Betterworld 00:50, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I just found this: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#No_consensus_for_straight_quotes. Seems like there is an ongoing debate about this. --Betterworld 01:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A. F. Gotch

I'd like to ask you to re-consider your vote at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/A. F. Gotch. I've cleaned up the page, and added another of his books. If Wikipedia lists people only on the basis of how well their books were received, it seems to me that we're crossing a rather dangerous line into reviewing rather than building an encyclopedia. -Harmil 11:19, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Features article

OK I'm no journalist but it's done at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-08-22/Features and admins. the wub "?/!" 22:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Looks excellent! Thanks a bunch. ral315 22:42, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Per a request by User:Nichalp, is there any way that you can add Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates (see also Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/archive) and also Featured Picture removals on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ral315 13:12, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Latin?

Hello! I saw you listed as one of our rare users who are good at Latin. Would you be willing to help translating a bit of text from English into Latin? Let me know please. Yours, Radiant_>|< 09:51, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

• la.wiki? Brilliant :) Oh yeah - the idea was to translate some of the prayers on Wikipedia:Catholic Church of Wikipedia. No hurries, though. I've already done one. Radiant_>|< 10:39, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UKCOTW

Hello, I think you mistakenly changed the UK COTW as Joolz had just updated it 3 days previously. Cheers, Talrias (t | e | c) 10:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)`

[edit] DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article message in a bottle, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Features article

Sure, that's fine. Thanks for giving me notice, I really do appreciate it. ral315 03:12, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User: Demogorgon's Soup-taster

Thanks for the welcome message. I'll be sure to let you know if I need any help (provided that I realise I need it!) Demogorgon's Soup-taster 10:56, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scimitar's RfA

. . . but they told me not to drink the kool-aid. . . (thanks for the support!)--Scimitar ^parley 17:14, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

Thank you for your kind words. I never thought my anorak tendancies would eventually have a home like Wiki but now it's almost impossible to go on line without thinking about the place =) Liam doktorb 08:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Shooting Fish

You voted on the article's deletion, however there was also a film by that name which Sabine's Sunbird and I have edited the article to refer to. Note the film is linked to from both the Kate Beckinsale and Stuart Townsend articles. I hope you will reconsider your vote in light of this information. Steve block talk 21:33, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support!

Dear The Wub, thanks for your vote of confidance at my RfA. I'll try hard to make the soggy mop proud! — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 22:46, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding this week's Signpost

Just confirming that you plan to do the featured section this week. Please respond ASAP on my talk page and in the Newsroom to confirm. Ral315 06:21, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UKCOTW: Demographics of the United Kingdom

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW: Demographics of the United Kingdom. Come and help out! :D -- Joolz 14:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting comments on template alteration

Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments. Ddawson 10:25, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup

Heya,

Just a quick note to remind you of the London Meetup this coming Sunday (the 11th of September) that you signed up for (as 'possible', so you'll be definitely coming then, won't you? ;-)). It's at the Archery Tavern, just next to Lancaster Gate tube station, from 13:00 (BST) onwards.

Looking forward to seeing you there.

Yours,

James F. (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ulayiti's RfA

Hi Wub, and thanks for your support of my RfA. I'm an administrator now, and I hope that I'll live up to the community's expectations as one. Your vote of confidence is much appreciated. - ulayiti (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Joolz's RFA

Hey, thanks for your vote on my recent RFA, your support was appreciated :) -- Joolz 11:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost will probably be late this week.

My home computer doesn't have internet at the moment...and it's not anything that I think can be fixed by Sunday. Expect the Signpost Monday (possibly Tuesday, but I really doubt that). Just drop a note on my talk page or in the newsroom when you're finished writing your article. Ral315 16:19, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

I certainly hope you can write me in the features and admins article :) If Lotsofissues hasn't updated his citations, I usually just search "Wikipedia" on Google News and take all the sources- if there's an article on Wikipedia itself, or on the Wikimedia foundation, it might be beneficial to write a paragraph on it, but otherwise, just the paper's name is good. Thanks a lot for your help! Ral315 21:34, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Signpost should be on time; my internet is back. User error- I blame it on my parents :) Ral315 13:52, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the support on my RfA. I was very pleasantly surprised to see so much support throughout the week. Please do keep an eye on me and my logs, especially while I'm learning the ropes with the new buttons. Thanks again! -Splash 23:50, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

A thanks for the support on my admin nomination. I'm now WP's newest admin. CG 18:20, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost/In the news

I did a writeup for the Signpost's In the news for September 12without realizing that you had already volunteered for that in addition to featured articles. Sorry if I trod on any toes -- feel free to edit mercilessly! — Catherine\^talk 23:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thank you very kindly for your support of my nomination. I promise your trust hasn't been misplaced; I will only be slightly buzzed with power, but never drunk. ;) · Katefan0^(scribble) 21:39, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Android79's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA. android79 22:40, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heads up: minor edits on your paper to update it

Heads up: minor edits on your paper to update it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2005-09-12/Features_and_admins&diff=23135157&oldid=23133804

Hoping that meets with the approval of editor, wub, and assistant-editor, Flcelloguy.

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:28, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

• FYI, Ral315 reverted my edit here and gave this commentary: "revert; Signpost is not a soapbox to gauge public opinion." *I replied to him along these lines:

• • I saw your revert on the paper:

(diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-09-12/Features and admins; 01:28 . . Ral315 (Talk) (revert; Signpost is not a soapbox to gauge public opinion.)

I did not post to estimate or measure or gauge public opinion:

Conversely, an editor myself, I posted to update the news. (Further, I could care less to estimate the public opinion; rather, it is important to educate readers so they can be an educated voting public.)

I respect your opinion, but you're only a 15-year old high-school sophomore, and I'm a 39-year old veteran, even to the point of being an old geezer. Why don't you run it by the editors before you revert -unless you can justify keeping the public in the dark; besides, I did not advocate or promote anything: I just reported on the news, about which I am expert.

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:35, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

In all fairness, I want to let you know I'm going to notify the editors about you, so you won't feel I'm talking behind your back. It's their paper, after all, and they can determine these matters.--GordonWattsDotCom 01:40, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:43, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to my attention, but I'm afraid I've got to go with Ral315 on this. Signpost articles don't tend to get edited/updated after they've been put up, except for glaring errors and typos. It's just the way it works. Nor is it really fair for you to add your appeals to them. RfC is the way to get attention for the voting. Good luck on getting the article featured. the wub "?/!" 09:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I think Gordon thought I was just a random editor with a grudge against him. In any event, it's over now, and I do wish Gordon good luck as well. Ral315 12:58, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

No, I never thought you had a grudge against me, but YES, I definitely thought you were just some random, you know -pop-in and whack’em editor, just carelessly whacking something that looks odd -Well, I have confidence in your abilities, and while I'd do things differently, I can sleep well at night knowing you're not some weirdo or something. Besides, after so many hours of editing (and personally visiting the Schiavo website to get non-Fair Use photos), I just might get some sleep, lol. PS: How'd you get a user name so similar to Raul654 AKA Mark, the Featured Articles editor? Just coincidence and random chance? Thx. Take care.--GordonWattsDotCom 13:06, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks awfully

Ta for supporting my RfA, much appreciated. I'll endeavour to contribute more to those necessary tasks and hope to bring the benefit of years of experience of tactfully sorting out recalcitrant contractors to bear in the gentler arena of wikipedia....dave souza 18:44, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your vote

I appreciate your vote in my successful RfA. If you every need anything just ask. I hope I can live up to expectations. - Trevor MacInnis(Talk | Contribs) 12:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UK COTW: Ethnic groups of the United Kingdom

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this fortnight's UKCOTW - Ethnic groups of the United Kingdom. Come and help out! Thanks, Joolz 22:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] GordonWatts' RFA

I agree with you, but because I've taken a lot of flak for it, I'm just going to insert this two-sentence blurb: "In a controversial RFA, GordonWatts (formerly GordonWattsDotCom) failed to gain consensus for adminship. The page was protected by an administrator with 4 support votes, 29 object votes, and 5 neutral votes." I'd much rather leave it out, but I figure this way, we can keep it NPOV, and let readers draw their own conclusion. I'm also going to leave a note on the talk page explaining why it's in there, why it's so short, and why I don't want it edited at all. Ral315 23:04, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

By the way (in case you hadn't noticed), I changed my mind, after GordonWatts added another "press release" to the newsroom. Ral315 15:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The charter is here. (Relating to Esperanza)

Hello The wub, the Charter for Esperanza is up. Take a looksie :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:59, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza made less bureaucratic

Hello again, I have (unilatterly) taken away the 'assembly' idea, as per my reasons at that edit summary and per Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Charter. I have left the admin general, as some leadership is good. Now, all you have to do is be a member to establish consensus, the whole assembly idea is gone. Also, I have added an advisory committee, of four members, with limited power besides watching over the admin general and making sure he doesn't do anything stupid. Please look at the ammended charter, and I would love a comment. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MIND 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

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Also, congratulations to ROYGBIV for winning round two; it was an extremely close game, with the runner-up, Spondoolicks, only two points behind. Let's keep round three competitive! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 22:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Notification Bot

Sorry for the triple notification --AllyUnion (talk) 20:00, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The last time I'm spamming you all with Esperanza stuff

Hello The wub. As you may or may not know, there have been some troubles with Esperanza. So now, as a last ditch to save the community, please vote at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform on all neccisary polls. P.S. I'm very sorry for spamming you all with these messages, and this will be the last time. I recommend putting ESP on your watchlist. Cheers and please look at that, let's stop the civil war then. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:53, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost redesign.

I know you're not going to be able to get any stories going for quite a while; but I'd like you to look at a possible redesign we've been talking about, and tell me what you think: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Redesign. Ral315 20:24, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Just to say thanks for supporting my RfA. Please let me know if you see me screw up anytime. --Doc (?) 19:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Fair use music

Template:Fair use music has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Fair use music. Thank you.

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[edit] Kevin Garnett photo

Hi, would you mind uploading that photo of Kevin Garnett to a more expressive file name (other than Untitled.jpg)? We don't want people using generic filenames like that on Wikipedia; they keep getting overwritten. (See Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Generic image file names for more.) KevinGarnett.jpg, for instance, would be safe. Also, you need to provide copyright into for it, too. The old image is available here if you need it. Also, I commented out the link to it in Minnesota Timberwolves, so once you've re-uploaded, you'll need to edit that article to put it back. Thanks! Noel (talk) 02:23, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia UK meeting

Hi Wub, there will probably be a meeting for the purpose of discussing Wikimedia UK this Sunday, which you might like to attend. You could add your name there if so. Cormaggio ^@ 23:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stress

I feel your pain, so here, have a cup of coffee with me and we can comfort each other. -- Essjay · Talk 20:51, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Quietstorm

Nice work! Vote changed accordingly CLW 18:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Good rewrite! Consider putting it up for the Wikipedia:Article rescue contest!! Again, good work ! --Celestianpower ^hablamé 18:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll check the rewrite out and get back to you.--Alhutch 18:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

nice work on the rewrite. i changed my vote.--Alhutch 19:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Great job on the rewrite - vote changed. Dlyons493 Talk 19:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Spam

Hello Esperanzians! A few announcements.

The Advisory Committee election results are in. In tranch A are Acetic Acid and Flcelloguy. In tranch B are Ryan Norton and Bratsche.

My other annoouncement is that our founder, JCarriker, has founded Esperanza's sister project, Wikipediology. I have written two essays here (my name is Matt Binder). My essays are under Teenage Wikipedians and Anon Editors.

On behalf of myself and Jay Carriker and the other wikipediologists, I would appreciate it if you were to join.

Cheers Esperanza! Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:45, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Negative zero

Hi there, do reconsider your vote on AfD for -0. Negative zeroes do occur in one-complement arithmetic. Please check out this link! Pilatus 00:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Celestianpower is an admin

Thank you very much for your support - my bid (as you probably know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I just hope I don't mess up! Talk again soon I hope but my word is thanking tedious! --Celestianpower ^hablamé 13:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:70.22.230.57

UM, HI? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GIGGLY WIGGLY NONSENSE?

WHY DO HAVE TO RUIN MY FUN?

SORRY< U DIDN'T HAVE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION

BUT I GET WHAT U MEAN

[edit] Imposter

Actually, you have two! I just blocked another one! -- Essjay · Talk 23:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll tell you my secret: I have an IRC channel that streams new user creations. #wikipedia-en-newusers -- Essjay · Talk 23:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hermione1980's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA; I really appreciate it! I will do my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. Thanks, Hermione1980 23:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi The wub! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:00, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You For Welcoming Me

Well, thank you for welcoming me. I suppose it's worth mentioning that I received your message after doing a little more work on editing the Sonic Crakcers page. Thank you for helping me with the screenshot of the title page.

My biggest concern with the screen shot was "is this public domain?" Since the game was never released, and has no copyright on it, is it copyrighted?

Thank you for your help.

[edit] Frapper

Hi, I found on frapper we're living in the same city. Nice to see there's someone else around. --Cruccone (talk) 23:03, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Wub, thanks for your support on my RFA. I very much appreciate it. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask. See you around! —thames 18:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CBW RfA

Just a quick word of thanks for your vote. If you have any concerns over my actions please let me know. CambridgeBayWeather 00:07, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your RFA

[edit] Pikachu

I have responded to some comments made on my talk page about my use of Pikachu images in RfA. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 04:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] British Sea Power

Excuse me on that one, POTW has been causing problems all over the place and it's been one of my main projects in the past few days to mentor him, or at least try to. Let me see what's up with the anon. Karmafist 01:21, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

You are not my mentor. You will never be my mentor. You have abused your admin powers by blocking me against policy and you continue to tell lies and make personal attacks about me. Andy Mabbett 10:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Promotion

Per your request, I have promoted you to adminship. Please familiarize yourself with the relavant policies before using your new powers, and congradulations. →Raul654 03:01, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• Congrats on adminship Dlyons493 Talk 06:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

Congratulations, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 13:24, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, well done indeed, Mr Wub, sir. Proto t c 13:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Let me add myself to the list of those people wishing to congratulate you. --Celestianpower ^háblame 14:16, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• Ditto. We became admins the same day, so anything you need, just ask, ok? Titoxd^(?!?) 17:45, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• Congratulations! And thank you for considering to nominate me. :) Acetic'^Acid 19:02, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

• Congratulations! I'm sure that you will do a wonderful job.—Gaff ^ταλκ 21:16, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
• Congrats from me too. You'll be fine. if you've got any questions, give us a buzz. Grutness...wha? 02:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• Congratulations, I'm sure you'll make a great admin. Andre (talk) 23:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Titoxd's RfA

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd^(?!?) 17:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Work

I'm trying to send things for speedy delete, but before I can make the edit you have already deleted them!—Gaff ^ταλκ 01:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• hey...before you go, can you look at the Martin Luther King Jr page? User: Grazon has created a new category "Democratic Socialist." He has listed Michael Moore and MLK in their and removed the prior designation of Socialist from MLKs category. I suspect some POV editing...thanks.—Gaff ^ταλκ 01:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Never mind. I think that I cleared it up by talking to him. sorry to bother you.—Gaff ^ταλκ 01:51, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TOUCH MY MONKEY!

You're most welcome. I'm sure you'll make a fine addition to the admin cabal. And I really don't mind you stealing my monkey, especially since you gave due credit. There's no telling, however, if the monkey will mind :>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 07:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Counter Vandalism Unit Elections!

Just a reminder: If you haven't already done so, you have until November 1st (00:00 UTC) to vote in the Counter Vandalism Unit Elections! FireFox 18:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tomf688's RfA

Well, it seems I'm now an administrator. I wanted to thank you for your vote of confidence, and, as always, feel free to drop me a line at any time. --tomf688^{talk} 01:00, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support! If you should ever have any concerns about my actions as an administrator, please be sure to tell me! Kirill Lokshin 13:33, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Break

Heartbroken to hear you're on indef break, and hoping you'll be back with us soon. -- Essjay · Talk 20:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello, admin twin. What happened that sent you on a Wikibreak? Anyway, I hope you're back soon too. Titoxd^(?!?) 19:23, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Let me add my name to the list of those who really, realy, want you to return. --Celestianpower ^háblame 21:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I hope your WikiBreak is pleasant, but that you'll return to us soon. Remember that we all wub, I mean, love you :). And thanks for wishing me well on my Break, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vigil

Let's do this right and have a candlelight vigil. Here's my candle to get us started, and an approximation of the amount of tears already shed over your departure. -- Essjay · Talk 06:31, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Add mine too,

. Please come back soon; you're a voice of sanity in a sea <---- of chaos. Regards, Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 02:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Orationem exaudi meam:
dona eis aeternam requiem et lux perpetua luceat eis,
O Sancti Sanctaeque, ora pro nobis.
Pie Jesu,
Qui tollis peccata mundi,
dona eis aeternam requiem et lux perpetua luceat eis.
O Sancti Sanctaeque, ora pro nobis.
In Paradisum deducant vos ageli,
suscipiant vos martyres, cum gloria suscepit vos!
Orationem exaudi nostrum:
dona eis aeternam requiem et lux perpetua luceat eis.
O Sancti Sanctaeque, ora pro nobis.

[edit] godmode-light.js

Hi, you don’t look like you’ll need it any longer, but you might be happy to know the ampersand bug was fixed. Sam Hocevar 01:55, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Psy guy's RfA

Thanks for supporting my RfA. It recently closed with final tally of 51/1/2. I sincerely appreciate it and I hope I can live up to your expectations. I will try my best to be a good administrator. If you ever need anything, just let me know. Thanks! -- Psy guy (talk) 05:49, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back!

welcome back! Redwolf24 (talk) 00:39, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Thanks for returning! Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 04:18, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh yes, would you like to be restored as a member of Esperanza? We put you in the "Former Members" here. Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 04:48, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back, admin twin!!! Thanks for the message, I'm alright, just a little bit busy with midterms. But thanks again.. :) Titoxd^(?!?) 20:16, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Holy cow

Hey, wub!

Thanks a lot for the cucumber! That really means a lot to me. I put him up on my user page. I'm going to bed now, but I figured I'd let you know that I appreciate it. Thanks! Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 05:10, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		An Award
		I award this Barnstar to The Wub for heroic work fighting vandals

I came upon your user page and contribution list at random and saw how very many vandalisms you have reverted. Keep up the good work! Gaius Cornelius 18:10, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks For Your Help On My User Page

I was kind of freaking out there, but your assistance was the first step towards finally fixing it later on when I was asking Titoxd for assistance. Hopefully TidyHTML will be working again soon enough. I figure if anything deserved a barnstar, that did, and tonight i'm going homemade. Therefore, please enjoy the company of my wild pet bear! Karmafist 07:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia UK

You have expressed an interest in Wikimedia UK. Just to let you know I've posted a draft Memorandum of Association and Articles of Association of the proposed "Wikimedia UK" charitable company on Wikimedia UK/Memorandum of Association and Wikimedia UK/Articles of Association. It is proposed that these will receive initial approval by interested parties at a meeting on 27 November. I will put together a brief agenda for the more formal aspects of that meeting soon. Memo and Arts of Association are a company's constitution, and need to be agreed before the company is formed (though they can be changed at a later date). Please feel free to comment on the relevant talk pages (I'd rather the proposed drafts are left unedited so that it is easy to see what is going on) - particularly if there is something there that you would disagree with at the meeting, details of which can be found on the Wikimedia UK page on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki. Kind regards, jguk 19:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thanks for your support. I've now been made an administrator. I'll do my best not to let you down :) --Sherool (talk) 02:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for supporting me for adminship. The RfA passed today. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better place. --Nlu 05:45, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

[edit] GraemeL's RFA

[edit] Looking for an honest opinion

I'm working on the article motorized bicycle. I created a timeline. It is nominated for deletions. I was wondering if you could give me your opinion of the subject either at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Motorized bicycle history or on my user talk page. Thank you. (p.s.: love the some of your categories, I stole you idea and put some on my user page.) --CyclePat 01:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ianblair23's RfA

[edit] Walt Disney

Hi! Thanks for keeping an eye on that page. There's continuing childish vandalism going on there at the moment, but the server is so agonishingly slow in accepting edits (at least here from Finland), that I can't keep up with it. Please continue your vigilance, thanks! --Janke | Talk 15:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hello! Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. Less than a minute after it happened, no less! -- Saikiri 21:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a ton; I'll try it out. As for my userpage, I didn't really like it, and was working on a new one, so I blanked it - but since you think it's fine then I'll leave the old one up for now. -- Saikiri 05:52, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MIND

Hello. Round four of Wikipedia Mind Benders will open on Thursday, December 1. This round will be drastically different from round three; part one will consist of a creative project, and part two will be developed from there. The full details will be released when the round opens. Time and speed should not be major factors in this round; thus, there is no exact opening time for the round as speed will not factor into the scoring. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] The Smiths' "This Charming Man"

Hi. I noticed that you placed the sample of "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" on the article about the Smiths. I was wondering if you could maybe upload a sample of "This Charming Man" and put it on the new article that I'm working on. It'd be much appreciated. Live Forever 19:57, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Thanksgiving!

SWD316 19:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please read

[2] BrandonYusufToropov 14:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Talk Page

It's not stressful to me. It might be to you all, but once again, you all have no respect. Quentin Pierce 02:22, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi, The wub

I prefer to have the home pages of My other user accounts redirect to My Main Home Page: User:EddieSegoura. Please leave them alone. -- Eddie 20:22, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikifun

Hi, I've noticed you've taken part in Wikifun before.

Just to let you know, Round 11 begins today at 0900 GMT. Dmn 04:27, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Wub, thanks for your support on my RfA. The final count was 46/0/0 (of which you were #46 - got through them all now!). I hope I'll live up to your faith in me in my use of the mop and bucket. Please accept this wikithanks as a token of my gratitude ;) --bainer (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Awolf002 RfA

Thank you very much for your support for my RfA. I will do everything I can to justify your trust in me. Awolf002 03:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My failed RFA :)

[edit] Yet Another RFA Thank You Note to clutter up your talk page...

The wub:

Just wanted to drop you a note to say thanks for supporting me in my recent RFA. As you may know by now, I managed to squeak into Sysophood with a final vote of 46/13/2. I will endeavor to live up to your expectations.

All the best.
→ Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 23:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism repair

Thanks for fixing the vandlism on my user page! --StuffOfInterest 23:18, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks...

Nice to know when someone's got your back. Mjformica 12:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ann's RfA

Hi, The wub – or is it just "wub" when addressing you? I want to thank you for voting to support me in my RfA. I know I'm very late thanking you, but I've been a bit caught up with college work. I hope I'll live up to the expectations of those who voted for me. I look forward to working with you as a fellow admin. Thanks again. Cheers. AnnH ^(talk) 17:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza elections

[edit] R f A

[edit] My RfA

[edit] IP block request

Please do me a favor and block 141.150.185.226. His/her past history, plus this threat should be reason enough. Thank you! --Mareino 15:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for your help, and thanks for the link to WP:AIV.--Mareino 15:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SoLando's RFA

Hi The wub (awesome!), thank you for voting in support of my RFA; the result was (28-0-0 ). I hope that I am able to fulfil the expectations of an admin. If you see me mess up anywhere, have any concerns (be it for my musical taste or edits), please don't hesitate to tell me! Take care. SoLando (Talk) 10:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

[edit] Thanks...

...for reverting that vandalism to my user page. Your hard work is much appreciated. Canderson7 ^(talk) 01:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: 666666th user

i think i am. i refreshed Special:Statistics until the user count was 666665 and then created my account. however i could very well have been the 666667th or 666668th; i think more than one person was trying to be the 666666th because when i refreshed it again the user count had gone up by three. 666666th user 15:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] News from Esperanza

Hello, fellow Esperanzians! This is just a friendly reminder that elections for Administrator General and two advisory council positions have just begun. Voting will last until Friday, December 30, so make sure you exercise your right to vote! Also, I'm pleased to announce the creation of the Esperanza mailing list. I urge all members to join; see Wikipedia:Esperanza/Contact for more information. All you need to do is email me and I will activate your account. This will be a great way to relax, stay in touch, and hear important announcements. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?)

This message was delivered to all Esperanza members by our acting messenger, Redvers. If you do not wish to receive further messages, please list yourself at WP:ESP/S. Thanks.

[edit] Thank you!

[edit] You've been spammed again

Thank you for supporting my recent bid for adminship, which passed 64-2. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 07:26, Dec. 17, 2005==

[edit] My RfA

[edit] Another RFA thanks

[edit] SWD316 RFA

I want you to see the comment under the "comments" section I left at My RFA. It partially involves you. SWD316 22:42, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

No need for an apology from you, just keep on being on Wikipedia and I'll be happy. :-) SWD316 23:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, You've Got Alot of RFA Thank Yous here

You should start a garden of them or something. Anyway, thanks for the barnstar. You'll have to give me another barnstar after 1,000 if i'm around that long ;-) karmafist 00:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ianbrown's RfA

[edit] Thanks!

[edit] Adminship EdwinHJ

In the light of the opposition to Edwin's 3rd attempt, you may wish to review your position.Phase1 22:12, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

As you already know:

[edit] you are a bad man

What kind of a person would delete an article about a fun loving kid named Ben Marcotte because you think it is some attack on him? You make me sick and you need to think about what you do before you go ahead and delete a good article on a good man. I happen to know the real Ben Marcotte and the article is 100% true and it is in no way making fun of him. So for this Christmas Season please find it in your heart to put Ben Marcotte back on Wikipedia for all to enjoy.

                                  Thank You,
                                  Anonymous

[edit] malo's RfA

[edit] Mon beau RfA

Sadly, I am too poor to afford shiny colored boxes and pictures. Nevertheless... Thanks for supporting my RfA. The final tally was a flamboyant 22/4/1. Deltabeignet 23:49, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hey The wub! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was an unanimous (45/0/0), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, or have a question, please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 03:31, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

I'm not expecting to be online as much over the next few days so...

User:Francs2000/Christmas

-- Francs2000 09:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Happy holidays!

Hi, The wub! I hope you have an enjoyable and relaxing winter break. :) Take care, Sango123 (talk) 00:19, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I fear your massive Userbox. ;-)

[edit] I just had to say hi!

I love your user page. Just have to say hi and leave my signature. I also, was wondering if you could leave your opinion on the delete page of Gallery of motorized bicycle. (seeing as I feel like it's either me or some other users that are being "dense." Anyhoot. Cheers. Merry Christmas. Don't eat to much. Stay healthy and all the best. Thank you.--CylePat 02:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Hi, thanks for supporting my request for adminship. If there's ever something I can help you out with please drop me a note. Happy holidays! Jacoplane 16:31, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CFD

Hello, Category:Wikipedians interested in wikipedians has been deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 December 17#Category:Wikipedians interested in wikipedians. You may want to remove it from your userpage. Thanks. Izehar 17:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Howcheng's RfA

[edit] RfA thanks from Deathphoenix

Hi wub,

I just wanted to thank you for supporting me in my RfA. To tell you the truth, I was surprised by all the support I've gotten. I never saw myself as more than an occasional Wiki-hobbyist.

My wife sends her curses, as Wikipedia will likely suck up more of my time. She jokingly (I think) said she was tempted to log on to Wikipedia just to vote Oppose and let everyone know that she didn't want her husband to be an admin.

It means a great deal to me to get a cliché vote from you. I'll make sure your trust in me is founded. --Deathphoenix 14:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

[edit] Esperanza election

[edit] Esperanza elections

Thanks for voting for me in the Esperanza elections. I've been appointed to the Advisory Committee, thanks to your show of confidence in me. I'll do my best to make you proud, but please feel free to ask me for help at any time or to give me tips as to what you would like to do. Thanks for being an active member of Esperanza! I'll see you around. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, admin twin. :) But I don't know what to do with all the food now! :P Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 01:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Elections

Thank you for your vote! Please let me know if I can help you as an advisory council member in the future. And thanks for giving me something to go with my ham! karmafist 01:13, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for your vote for me in the Esperanza council election. I sincerely appreciate it.--Dakota ~ ε

[edit] Esperanza Elections

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[edit] WUB

Hello, just curious if the inspiration for your username was the Philip K. Dick short story. Tufflaw 02:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Cool. Tufflaw 17:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for Lee Smith (baseball), this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 22:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On my departure...

Okay, so I'm breaking my promise by adding to your talk page. :)

Seriously, I thanked Friday, and I'll thank you, too, for the thoughts. As I told Friday, though, the whole idea of an admin taking a comment made in IRC as official word to pull various rugs out from under various people is intolerable to me, especially when the reasoning seems threatening to those of differing opinions. I have the distinct impression now that, because I choose to share a religious affiliation or other "non-encyclopedic" trend, I'm not welcome.

I'll probably continue to monitor my talk page, but just in case, you can always email me. --Joe Sewell 22:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stopped being funny?

It never stops being funny. It's even funnier now because it pisses you off :) Have a nice day!

[edit] Mike Garcia gone or not

Don't worry. I'm not leaving for a long time. I'm back anyway. I just took a break anyway. -- Mike Garcia 23:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rfa thanks

Hello The wub. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. Please ask me if you need any help. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greek literature a candidate at the Wikipedia:European Union collaboration

You have supported Greek literature at the WP:IDRIVE some time ago. I have now renominated it at the new Wikipedia:European Union collaboration. Please consider supporting it there if you are still interested! --Fenice 13:16, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merci beaucoup

Hello wub, thank you for your support in the Esperanza election. Let me know if I can do anything for you in return. with kind regards Gryffindor 16:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This Charming Man

I have nominated the article I mentioned to you earlier for featured article statuss. You may vote here. Live Forever 06:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Many thanks for your support on my request for adminiship, I'm sure you'll be glad to know the final result was 92/1/0. I am now an administrator and (as always) if I do anything you have issue with, please talk about it with me. --Alf ^melmac 11:34, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Thank you, the last two days have been rather productive for me, from over 1900 edits to over 2100, so that might be a factor in all these nomination offers.

Prodego ^talk 21:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

PS I voted on Wikipedia talk:Requests for rollback privileges earlier today ;-)

[edit] Thank you

[edit] 1000

Thanks Wub. I'm lucky i've gotten into the real world again, because this place has become incredibly depressing. I see the names of valuable people I couldn't save from the mob and I weep at times. Purplefeltangel. Durin. Essjay(for the most part). Redwolf24 along with many, many Esperanzans, and now Slim Virgin is on the verge.

Kelly Martin and her gang are having their way at their whim, despite any apparent resistence. Welcoming is seeming more and more useless other than for the purpose of the sheer astonishment of statistics. karmafist 05:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the negativity up there, it's my new year's resolution to reduce or eliminate that outlook regardless of outside stimuli, but it looks like i'm not there yet. I will endeavor to reach my goal, and I look forward to you being wowed by my 2000th Welcome. karmafist 02:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Explanation and Further Apology

I'm glad to hear about Red, and to me, Durin was RFA, so when he left actively vetting the candidates, he seemed to be only a shadow of what he was to me. As for Essjay, I guess he just learned earlier than me that Wikipedia's underpinnings are like an ocean and you just gotta flow with it. It's even becoming past Jimbo's control, as seen by the Seigenthaler incident.

Ultimately, 2005 was an insanely bad year for me. I'm a journalist by trade, but I put my career on hold in an attempt to steer it in a new direction after graduating from college in December '04 and wanting to avoid the fate of a few friends of mine who had a bad time in the profession and to hopefully become a politician here in New Hampshire.Unfortunately, this decision just caused alot of misery on my part -- several part time jobs, a few freelance paper jobs, a Real estate license that hasn't gone far yet, and continuing to live with my parents(oy...).

I think the past few months have rubbed off on me here, but luckily, 2006 has been alot better so far. I've gotten two decent part time jobs in the past two weeks, started at a new Real estate agency(my last boss was a crook), started up again on my novel, and things here begin to seem calming down at least. I guess the trick is understanding like Essjay has, that it's just like an ocean and if you go too hard into it, it'll swallow you up. I have no doubt we'll have another Kelly Martin RFC, only with someone other than Kelly and in regards to another subject, but with similiar rancor. Hopefully each one though will become smaller and smaller in intensity until eventually we don't even notice them and we can fix the things we want without trying to kill each other.

As for the userboxes, I have no qualms with your idea as long as fair use on user pages isn't attacked. I have no problem with using images that don't require fair use to be invoked if there are images available that are indicative of the subject and don't look like shit, such as the compromise with Template:User Rebel Alliance. However, if there aren't alternatives, not using fair use seems to be little more than paranoia, i'm going to try and get the opinion of a friend of mines' lawyer colleague in the next few days to get a real opinion rather than all the innuendo and babble regarding the subject on Wikipedia lately. karmafist 13:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Apology for possibly bumming you out! I know how that is, I tried going on a wiki break last month and I ended up having 100 edits per day ;-) karmafist 14:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks for your reply. I made the effort to remove the 2 userboxes which added me to supports userboxes stuff which people disliked, and also by hiding them I feel is a suitable compromise. I feel opposing based on things like that should be stopped, but it would still continue, probably just with a different excuse. And I will stand again should someone nominate me (very) late feb onwards. But once again, thank you for the trust you placed in me. Ian¹³_ID:540053 19:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

The wub, thank you very much for supporting me during my recent RfA campaign! Thanks to you, I am now an admin. Please drop by if you need anything - I'll be glad to help you. Once again, thanks! --M@thwiz2020 22:59, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

[edit] Thank you!

Thanks for supporting me on my Rfa, wub! I appreciate your trust. The puppy is now an Admin (final tally 58/7/2) Please let me know if there is anything I can ever do to assist you. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:55, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

I don't have a fancy layout like other new admins, but I just want to thank you for your support at my RfA. It passed 47/3/1, so I have officially been promoted. I hope I won't let you down. If I'm not doing something properly, please tell me. Aecis ^{Mr. Mojo risin'} 21:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikifun round 12

This is to invite you to participate in the next game of Wikifun.
Round 12 will begin at 11:00 UTC on Friday January 20. 2006.
-- Ravn 17:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Birmingham

This is just a reminder that the Birmingham meetup of UK Wikipedians that you have expressed an interst in is happening tomorrow. Sorry for the short notice. Thryduulf 15:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asteroid deflection strategies won!

[edit] you are so correct

The Monty Hall problem is definitely not a paradox, and I removed it from list of paradoxes...signed... goddess...ooops...that is, MathStatWoman 04:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Thanks

[edit] Thank you for voting!

Hello there! I wanted to thank you for taking the time to vote on my arbitration commitee nomination. Although it was not successful, I appreciate the time you spent to read my statement and questions and for then voting, either positively or negativly. Again, thank you! Páll ^{(Die pienk olifant)} 22:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice

Hey. Can i interest you with a place on the Community Justice council? ComputerJoe 09:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Everyone's excuse. I really won't require much time. I just need to set-up a council. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Computerjoe (talk • contribs) 21:02, January 29 2006 (UTC).

[edit] An Esperanzial note

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower ^háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Wikipediology Elections

Voting for the positon of Regent Ñ will begin on February 5th at the voting page. All candidates should list themselves there before then. Please take the time to vote, and become more active in the Wikipediology Institute. Thanks - Pureblade | ^Θ 04:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Picture

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:British Museum Great Court roof.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Congratulations, and thankyou for nominating it. Raven4x4x 08:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use image

Hope to see you back soon, The wub! Anyways, I noticed that you had Image:Jyllands-Posten Muhammad drawings.jpg shown on your user page. The image is uploaded under a fair use provision, and Wikipedia policy states that fair use images should not be displayed on any pages outside the main (article) namespace, including user pages. Would you mind removing the image or simply linking to it? (Add a ":" in from of the image, like this: [[:Image:Jyllands-Posten Muhammad drawings.jpg]]) Thanks a lot! (That's the standard message I've been using, but if you're on a break and don't reply after a few days, I'll go ahead and take the liberty of removing it myself. Hope you don't mind.) Thanks, and come back soon! Flcelloguy (A note?) 21:19, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to go ahead and change it to a link; I hope you don't mind. I hope to see you back soon! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't normally have have fair use images on my page, but I feel very strongly about this, and want to speak out. I seriously doubt they present any legal threat to Wikipedia, can you imagine JP trying to sue anyone over them? If you still feel it has to go though I won't get into an edit war over it. the wub "?!" 16:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Now you know I felt felt with the Democratic logo, my friend. But you're right, I stuck in there and hit my 2000th edit today :-) Thanks for believing in me. Karmafist 20:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a Democracy

I don't support Wikipedia becoming a Democracy either, but rather a sociocracy, which we already have the rudiments of. I'm just trying to push it along with that petition of mine, so we can make sure that "catching Jimbo at a bad time" never hurts anyone like that ever again. Karmafist 15:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower ^háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
(message delivered by FireFox using AWB on Celestianpower's behalf)

[edit] But the Joe came back...

Don't know if you remember me, wub, but I was one of the "fallouts" from the userbox debaucle. Like you, I tried to stay away, but have decided to come back, albeit carefully and slightly grudgingly. --Joe Sewell (talk) 18:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!

Does blocking count as editing? :-) Anyway...I just unblocked the imposter account Kurps and reblocked everything...I must have done it right after you did it, because when I read the block log, I only saw you unblocking - I misinterpreted this as something else entirely. Anyway, thanks for catching that. --HappyCamper 00:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmm...

Well if you did that, I'd suggest you take with you this jar of premium grade extra virgin olive oil: --HappyCamper 01:03, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My user page

Hi. Thanks for the reverts you made to my user page. Cheers TigerShark 01:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3000

I'm sorry I was such a jerk at 1000, I miss you being amazed at my welcoming accomplishments.I miss that friendship of yours, and I hope you can come back from your work soon.

Also, on Template:2004Hillsborough19GeneralCourt, that is me. I wish there was a way I could prove it to you, but other than calling me or something, I just don't know how I could. I'll leave it alone for now, I'm not notable until I win. Karmafist 23:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] =Lol n00b

lol, It's alright, you can vote for me in my re-rfa if that ever happens :-P Those admin buttons feel like phantom limbs that I lost in a war or something lately... Oh well. Wikipedia's loss if it doesn't want me with the mop :-) Later buddy, thanks for cleaning up that little mess there on your page, Karmafist 20:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice

Dear members of Community Justice,

This message is just a simple newsletter, telling you of some recent progress.

Community Justice didn't get as many members as we initially hoped, however we currently have 11, including a few sysops.

The temporary council is now fully set-up, and it will remain in it's current form unless someone contacts me (or uses the talk page) to say that they wish to join the council, or to hold a higher post. In this case, an election will be organised.

We have created two warning tags: {{civil1}} and {{civil2}}. These aren't been widely used, so I ask you to use them when you see fit.

Finally, thanks! Computerjoe 19:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC) (delivered in AWB).

[edit] My RFA

Thank you for supporting my successful request for adminship. I'll try to put the admin tools to good and responsible use. If I do anything wrong you know where to find me. Raven4x4x 08:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great law!

Your addition to Raul's Laws was great! Just wanted to tell you that... :-) Essjay ^{Talk • Contact} 11:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. That page is probably one of my absolute favourites on Wikipedia, so much wisdom is gathered there. Your two laws are particularly great as well - especially the first one! the wub "?!" 12:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ignore the Arbitration

Worked well for him for a long time ;-) I expect they've already made up their minds irregardless of what I say, so I don't see the point in participating. Karmafist 03:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

The {{click}} template you created was nominated for deletion last week. --CBDunkerson 03:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you

Thank you. Haukur 09:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice

Nice to meet you - are we twins? --Bhadani 16:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding me there. --Bhadani 16:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome Back!

Hi!

Good to have you back at Esperanza!

See you around

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 17:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks...

...for the birthday wishes :) — FireFox • T [14:11, 26 March 2006]

[edit] Homer Simpson wins!

Joyous | Talk 18:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

	My RfA
	Thank you for supporting/opposing/commenting on my request of adminship, sadly the result was 54/20/7 an thus only 73% support votes, resulting in that the nomination failed. As many of you commenting that I have to few main-space edits, I'll try to better my self on that part. If you have any ideas on what kind of articles I could edit, pleas send me a line. :)	→AzaToth 09:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFA

As you requested, I am informing you that I am now undergoing RFA.

Prodego ^talk 19:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFA Thanks

Hi wub. Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 13:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello The wub: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi The wub. Just a quick note to thank you for your support in my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I will do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 03:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFC

Hi, I have started an RFC on User:Go for it! Your input and additions would be appreciated. Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Go_for_it!. thanks. -Quiddity 04:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goforit's RFC

Hi, regarding Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Go for it!, there has been much editing of the initial statement since you signed it. Please read it again and/or consider changing your edits/your signature to avoid the impression of inadequate procedure. Thank you. Kosebamse 20:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Community Justice

This is a notification reminding you all, especially councillors, that we are having a meeting where we will try to review progress so far and make a few decisions.

This meeting will be held on a wikipage, and well end on Saturday 15th April.

You can partake in the meeting here.

Thank you,

Computerjoe's talk 17:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (Chairman of WP:CJ.)

Message delivered through AWB.

[edit] Happy Easter

[edit] Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections

As Wikipedia:Community Justice has over 30 members, we are beginning the elections process.

If you are interested in becoming the chairman, the chief executive or councillor please add yourself, and a statement, to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.

Voting shall begin on April 24th, and end on May 1st. To see if you are eligible for a vote, please see Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.

Thank you,

Computerjoe's talk 21:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ election reminder

[edit] Wikipedia.org portal design

Wow, thank you for the note about .net magazine -- I'm very pleased indeed that they liked the design! Now if only the site weren't subscription only. If you have the magazine, could you perhaps transcribe the sentence(s) referring to Wikipedia for me? We can put the mention in next weeks Signpost news roundup. :) Thanks! — Catherine\^talk 22:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry to See You Go

Hey,

I'm sorry to see you leave WP:CJ, though I'd much rather you had discussed it on the talk page.

Regarding another issue, I see you wish to resurrect UKCOTW and I too am interested.

Thanks,

Computerjoe's talk 19:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I have a strict no meet-up policy sorry. Back to UKCOTW, I'm unsure how it is done. Does one person decide the COTW, or do we need a long process of consensus gathering? Computerjoe's talk 20:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discordian year

I added the dis-year template to Discordian calendar, if that's alright with you. Just wanted to let you know that it's already found a good use. Voretus the Benevolent (T | C) 09:42, Saturday April 22, 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I was going to put it there myself now that I tested it. I'm hoping to make a series of discordian date templates, so we can show the full date. the wub "?!" 09:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just another RFA thank you note

Dear The Wub, I appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ну? 04:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This is Moe

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA spam on featured template

hi, i see that the "good article" spam has been put back in Template:featured despite objections from several users. this seems to be the way the GA project works: boldly putting something into a page that doesnt want it, then claiming consensus is required to *remove* it again (consensus is never required to put it there in the first place).

this is exactly the same behaviour as witnessed on the attempt to create an article space "good article" star, which i & raul654 finally managed to have deleted (a huge effort since they had already spammed a 1000 articles with it), and on the Community Portal where this non-policy wikiproject has pride of place - its apparently far more important than any of the other dozens of collaborations!

they even had the cheek to remove the "non-policy process" template from the top of their project pages claiming they now had "enough support to be policy" - this is despite clear consensus on the talk page that its NOT policy. an attempt to put it back was quickly removed.

i would appreciate any comments on the template's talk page. i'm really fed up with fighting these GA spam battles everywhere, its quite tiring. why do they have to constantly spread their GA spam everywhere? hope you can help! Zzzzz 09:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Please tell me you're being ironic. the wub "?!" 13:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User notice: happy birthday

Happy Birthday from a fellow Esperanzian, although I suppose it isn't too happy as you have exams. xD ~Chris {^t_c^e_@} 16:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday The wub! Good luck for your exams, all the best! --Terence Ong 08:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday

Hello friend. I wish you a very happy birthday. BTW, I learnt of the same from Wikipedia:Esperanza. All the best for the coming year! And, all the best for examinations too! --Bhadani 16:29, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use debate regarding television screencaps

Currently, there is a debate on Talk:List of Lost episodes regarding whether or not use of a 1/30th stillframe visual excerpt next to a list of audiovisual works (such as List of Lost episodes or List of Family Guy episodes) is in accordance with WP:Fair use, and has even resulted in the protection of the page.

If you have any opinions regarding fair use on the List of Lost episodes page, please feel free to express them as I believe these two pages are sister projects.

Cws125 05:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ceiling cat

Can I request you unsalt this so I can make a worthwhile article stub out of it? --badlydrawnjeff talk 00:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Depression Category

Hello,

I see that the decision was to keep the Category:People diagnosed with clinical depression. My original proposal was not whether or not to keep it but to change the name. If the name remains the same, the problems I outlined still exist.

Regards,

Michael David 22:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

It's an interesting problem. I am inclined to agree with JeffW though, categories ought to have well defined inclusion criteria. The current category should be reserved for those who have been diagnosed, and supporting evidence should be presented. This would certainly conform to policies on verifiability and no original research. I'm not sure whether a broader category of people are widely thought to have suffered from depression would be a good idea or not. Perhaps it would be a good idea to seek input from members of WikiProject Psychology and WikiProject Psychopathology. the wub "?!" 07:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello,

I took your advice and looked at the participants of the Psychology & Psychotherapy Projects. None seemed focused enough.

My concerns with the Category are, basically, two-fold: 1) The disservice it does to the person being listed in a readily-available, online source that states they were “diagnosed” with a psychopathologic condition if they were, in fact, not so diagnosed. How would you feel if you were so listed? 2) I spoke with a lawyer regarding this and was told a person so listed could have grounds for a lawsuit.

If this is not resolved within Wikipedia I will do the following:

We have an E-mail network where I can send messages to thousands of practitioners, rehabilitation centers, and other professionals at one time. We use this to disseminate new information that’s come along in the work. I intend to use this network to alert the profession of the Wikipedia Category.

Regards,

Michael David 12:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Well it seems to me we are in agreement here. If it can't be verified that they have been diagnosed, and isn't referenced in the article, then they should not be in the current category. Feel free to go ahead and remove the category from any articles where references are not provided. the wub "?!" 15:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your support on this issue. I enjoy contributing to and learning from Wikipedia. I have a wide variety of interests. But 40 years of work in Clinical Psychology has made me particularly protective of it - in particular, the patient’s right to privacy. Unfortunately we still live in a society and culture where a person with any hint of psychopathology is considered weak, and sometimes dealt with cruelly – even with fear. I do intend to visit the Category from time to time and check the bios of persons who have been included. I’m probably in for an argument to two. Thank you again.

Be healthy,

Michael David 18:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help! with Tennessee Williams Article

Hello again,

I’m not sure who to go to with this, but perhaps you can offer some assistance. Believe it or not it involves the Depression Category! Specifically: The Article on Tennessee Williams was without citation as to his ‘depression’. I placed the ‘citation needed’ flag into the Article and removed the Category from the Article. Another editor then added a citation with a link. However, access to the information in this link requires a paid subscription. I noted this and reversed the edit stating that all sources must be freely available to all Wikipedia users. I now seem to be caught in an edit battle. If you have the time, would you please go to the history page of the Tennessee Williams article and then offer me some advice?

Thank you,

Michael David 22:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current events redesign

Just wanted to say I absolutely love it! Such a change is long overdue. I have posted a notice on the bulletin board of the Community Portal to try and get more input. the wub "?!" 22:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. For some reason the message on the current events portal is sparking enough discussion. joturner 22:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [3]

Hi, Thanks for helping rename Category:Pederastic lovers, however in the process the intro text of the old category has been lost and the category now appears as a red link. Could you please fix this problem, I do not know how to. Thanks, Haiduc 01:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Found it, all is well. Haiduc 01:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletion

Hi Wub

why have you deleted my Muggle Protection Act stub article? yes, it's empty, apart from the stub tag - and, importantly, the categories - but isn't that what stubs are for?

OrangUtanUK 14:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again Wub!

Thanks for the useful feedback. I thought it might be something like that. I've been trying to follow the "back end" pages of Wikipedia, but there's an awful lot of them. I thought there was a 7 day delete delay on Stub pages with a Context link? Never mind, I'll take your advice and include an {{Underconstruction}} template; and also make sure my stubs in future are a bit fuller.

Cheers! OrangUtanUK 16:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] deletion

I added an external link to the Surfboard page on July 7th and you deleted this link on July 8th. 22:44, 8 July 2006 The wub (Talk | contribs) m (restore vandal removed content) Please let me know the reason for removing this link, which I have subsequently place back up on the page. It was not out of context and was placed alphabetically in the proper section. gavinm

Sorry, I was reverting some vandal edits and accidentally got yours in the middle of them. the wub "?!" 09:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: To-Do List The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential! What's New? In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs. To improve both the layout and text of the front page, in an attempt to clarify the image of Esperanza, the front page is going to have some redesigning take place. Please take your creative minds to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Front page redesign to brainstorm good ideas. Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

The last AC meeting (full log) In order to make sure all users who join Esperanza are welcomed, a list of volunteers who are willing to welcome new Esperanzians is at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members#Esperanza_welcomers. Please add yourself if you are interested; we want to make sure all new Esperanza members are welcomed! The In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals page: Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been archived. For those proposals that were a good idea but didn't necessarily constitute a program, General Esperanzial Actions has been created. Two small pieces of charter reform will be decided on in a straw poll at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. One involves filling the position of any councillors who may leave, the other involves reforming the charter. Until cooperation with the Kindness Campaign is better defined, it remains as a proposed program. There is a page for discussing the front page redesign. Signed... Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd 05:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.

[edit] Category:British Cultural Icons

Hello, wub. I have contributed to both Buckingham Palace and Trooping the Colour. I see that on both of these you recently removed the Category:British cultural icons with AWB, citing CFD. Relatively new to Wikipedia, I confine my activities to writing and the odd merge, and was unaware of this. Can you tell me what has happened to this popular and useful category? Has it been deleted? Or has it been merged? What has happened to the many articles which were under this category?

I will watchlist this page and check back here for an answer or would be grateful to hear from you on User talk:FClef

I am copying this note to the Help Desk and to a couple of Wikifriends more experienced than I, to see if they know what the fate of this category is. Best wishes. -- FClef (talk) 20:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi FClef. It was decided to delete this category along with a number of other related ones, at Categories for discussion. The specific discussion is located here. A notice of the discussion was placed on the category page, sorry if you missed it. I myself had nothing to do with the decision, I was simply clearing out some of the backlog of categories to be deleted. Don't worry, the articles that were in the category won't be affected!

As a fellow Brit, I have to admit I had something of a soft spot for this particular category. I happened to save a list of the articles that were in it since I figured they might be ones I was interested in editing (if I get time!). I've posted the list at User:The wub/British cultural icons if you want to take a look. Hope this helps! the wub "?!" 20:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bonk!

You made a mistake. In the MediaWiki namespace. And it stayed that way for 15 days. And the previous edit to the page was a self-reversion by User:Angela of the exact same mistake you made. Please don't do this in the future. Please always review the history of the any MediaWiki pages you edit. Please have a good day. (And, please pardon my scarcasm - it's too late at night, and I just spent way too long trying to find the specific MediaWiki page that got borked up.) JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Categories for discussion

Hi The wub. I had a question. I noticed a while back that you moved Wikipedia:Categories for deletion to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion, but every sub-page, even the most recent ones, for the closed discussions are still listed as a "deletion" instead of "discussion" (e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 27). Can you or someone fix this? — The Future 18:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reqdiagram tag on Form constant

Hi... you added a {{Reqdiagram}} tag to Talk:Form constant. Could you please elaborate, and respond to my comments on that talk page (or mine), and/or remove the tag? Thanks. --Storkk 13:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Replied on Talk:Form constant. the wub "?!" 14:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you ...

... for your comment about my comment on RfB. I appreciate that you noticed and took the time to write. Ironically, tonight I may have to wade in an RfD and advocate strongly for admin overruling of the majority view, but it's an exceptional circumstance. Ninety-nine percent of the time, I find the user consensus has things more-or-less right. Hope our paths will cross again on-Wiki. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB Checklist

Hey there! My bot account User:Sagabot was approved yesterday to run AWB, but its name isn't on the AWB checkist - and so I can't use it. Would you mind adding it under the Bot section? I thought I'd ask you because you were an Admin I spotted using AWB :) My current username is under 'Approved users', and my talk page contains messages about my bot approval. Cheers --Sagaciousuk ^(talk) 10:09, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: Barnstar Brigade Here in Wikipedia there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go unappreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go unnoticed. As Esperanzians we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. This is where the Barnstar Brigade comes in. The object of this program is to seek out the people which deserve a Barnstar, and help them feel appreciated. With your help, we can recognize more dedicated editors! What's New? September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves! Appreciation Week, a program currently in development, now has its own subpage! Share your good ideas on how to make it awesome there! The Esperanza front page has been redesigned! Many thanks to all who worked hard on it. Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

The last AC meeting (full log) The proposals page has been updated, with some proposals being archived. Since the program in development Appretiaion week is getting lots of good ideas, it now has its own subpage. The September 2006 Council elections will open for nominations on 18 September 2006. The voting will run from 25 September 2006 until 30 September 2006. If you wish to be a candidate or a member of the elections staff, please list yourself! The new Esperanza front page design has but put up - many thanks to all who worked on it! TangoTango has written a script for a bot that will list new members of Esperanza, which will help those who welcome new Esperanzains greatly! Signed... Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd 04:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.

[edit] Generation categories

Can I just ask you why you removed the generation categories from all the articles without asking anyone? It seems odd to do something so drastics without discussing it at the relevant WT:PCP talk page? Highway ^Daytrippers 17:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

See this request from User:A Man In Black. The articles are all in the new generation categories (with hyphens) due to the template, so I was just getting rid of the old categories. the wub "?!" 17:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I was panicking. I think the "redundant" gave me the wrong end of the preverbial stick. Thanks for the help. Highway ^Daytrippers 17:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Hey The Wub, thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It finished with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. I really appreciate your support. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Diane Farrell article (why it should be undeleted)

Following on from our IRC chat...

http://www.farrellforcongress.com/news/index.html is the "official" page that lists some of the major media coverage that Diane Farrell has received, which would indicate that she is newsworthy. The basic point is, she is the major party candidate in one of the most-watched races in the US. Wouldn't it be embarrassing to wake up on November 8, find that she's been elected to Congress and that the balance of power in the US has radically shifted as a result, and to NOT have an existing article in Wikipedia because 11 people decided that she wasn't newsworthy enough in July?

So, aside from the Connecticut newspapers and television stations(which we think are significant in these parts - the Hartford Courant is one of the top 50 papers in the US), some of Farrell's recent media appearances include:

Hardball with Chris Matthews, a (lame) nationally-broadcast news show
The Hill, a Washington, DC political publication
The Washington Post
Newsweek
ABC News (national, not just local)
Human Events Online
Time Magazine
The New York Times (although for CT-4 that's a local paper)
The Financial Times, a UK/ international paper
The Los Angeles Times
US News and World Report
Roll Call (a DC publication)
CNN's The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer

We are now one month from the election, so the rate of coverage is going to become much more intense. This is "one to watch," so it would be bizarre were it to be blacklisted from Wikipedia at this moment. Malangali 18:34, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, via YouTube, was a long segment on the Jim Lehrer News Hour (national nightly news broadcast) Malangali 20:23, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, I've restored the article. Sorry I didn't get round to this earlier. Now it could use some expansion, and adding the evidence of notability. The Financial Times is particularly good (and what convinced me) since it is international. Also if you check the history there is the original version that was deleted, which might be helpful - [4]. I'll help out if I have time, but I'm pretty busy at the moment, and as I said I know very little about US politics. the wub "?!" 13:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Isn't this a conversation that should be had at WP:DRV, not on an individual talk page? Confused. Sandy 17:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Of interest I'm sure: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Diane Farrell. Thanks/wangi 18:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks wangi, for notifying me and for your sensible comments. the wub "?!" 18:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DRV of Diane Farrell

I have posted a DRV regarding the Diane Farrell recreation at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 October 8#Diane Farrell. Best, --Aaron 18:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Total re-write of the main Physics page is in progess

You might like to join us at Physics/wip where a total re-write of the main Physics page is in progess. At present we're discussing the lead paragraphs for the new version, and how Physics should be defined. I've posted here because you are on the Physics Project participant list. --MichaelMaggs 08:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current events link edit

Your edit here: [5] substantially changes the attribution of the elements of the event. The ESPN link was, at the time that it was added, the only article that I'm aware of that was reporting that Lidle was actually in the plane and died in the crash. While I'm sure the other articles have since been updated to reflect this information, the attribution implies what elements of our coverage were sourced from which sites. I appreciate your adding the ESPN piping, though. -Harmil 12:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I did think it must be something like that. However I've never seen individual elements of a story being attributed separately on Current events before, so was just going with normal practice and making the page look consistent. It seems somewhat moot now that other sources are reporting the same thing. the wub "?!" 12:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Category

I see you're deleting the category:pro-choice politicians (per CFD). I'm assuming a consensus has been reached on that subject. Will you also be removing category:pro-life politicians, for the same reason? It appears you have not done so yet. Appraiser 22:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Definitely - see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 October 8#Category:Pro-choice politicians / Category:Pro-life politicians. Though I probably won't do it myself, I'll leave it and the rest of pro-choice to a bot. I thought I'd make a start on the removals but the servers are playing up and slowing me down. the wub "?!" 22:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recat not needed

Hi, I see you are recategorizing Occupations by nationality and Nationalities by occupation. All of these have already been recategorized by changing the template. Some categories are duplicated. Instead of changing these to the new category name, it would be better to remove the duplication since it is handled by the template. -- Samuel Wantman 19:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! That would be much more sensible. I was confused the first time around since I didn't realise the templates were categorising as well. the wub "?!" 19:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

While you are at it, you could remove the people category as well, (like "Persian people"). This is also redundant, and is often piped incorrectly. -- Samuel Wantman

Will do, but it'll have to wait. Somthing's come up, I'll finish this off later tonight or tomorrow. the wub "?!" 20:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:UW

Hi The Wub,

I see looking at the WikiProject user warnings page, that you are a participant in this project. I have recently started an undertaking to harmonise all user page warnings and templates. For this I would like your assistance. I have listed a number of ideas on the project template page here as a first draft. I fully appreciate that as with most editors and admins, that you are fairly busy. Therefore I am not looking for anyone to carry out the actual work, I am willing to do that myself, with help from a number of other RC Patrollers who have come forward. But what I am looking for is your invaluable input, on the draft ideas and also to suggest other ways you believe we may improve the templates. I do however require the services of a couple of administrators to put into effect some of the new templates, as they are currently protected. Please take 5 mins to look through the new templates page, and both the project and templates talk pages and leave any ideas or suggestions that you may have. Best regards Khukri ^{(talk . contribs)} 10:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sysop Day

All the best! --Bhadani 21:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

A happy day to remember another happy day! Randfan 23:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yep, admin twin... I hope everything is all right, and yeah... one year, huh? Titoxd^(?!?) 00:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Judd Winick in Famous Comic Book Readers Category

Hi. What parameters for that category exclude Winick? Does that category exclude professionals who now work in comics? Nightscream 20:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, okay, I see now, you deleted the entire category. Just out of curiosity, why was it deleted? Nightscream 20:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

It was nominated for deletion and there was a consensus in favour of doing so. See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 October 20#Category:Famous comic book readers. By the way you can find notes about why a page was deleted by going to the page and clicking the link near the bottom of the notice saying "deletion log". the wub "?!" 10:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stampede Wrestling alumni category

It was up for deletion and thus deleted. But there is no point in putting past Stampede Wrestling stars in the roster category unless they are actively working for Stampede Wrestling. I feel that you might as well put all alumni pages of all promotions in the their roster category if you are going to do it for one. The alumni page serves as a purpose of telling people who has worked for Stampede Wrestling in the past. Alumni pages are very useful things to have. The sooner people learn that the better. Mr. C.C. 20:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories)#Occupation - specifically:

• Occupation categories should not be divided into "current" or "former" categories. For example, Category:Former child actors and Category:Current Minnesota Twins players should not exist.

-- the wub "?!" 11:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] November Esperanza Newsletter

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The last AC meeting (full log) The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived. There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia. The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested! In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias. A discussion of Esperanza's role in Wikipedia is being held, with all thoughts of all Esperanzians wanted! Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello. Signed... Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, The Halo, Shreshth91 and HighwayCello 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.

[edit] Checkuser clerk

Please check out my comments at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Noticeboard. Thanks. Thatcher131 00:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Activity on Talk:Mordecai Richler

As an experienced Wikipedia user with an interest in the topic, would you be kind enough to look into the recent activity on the Talk:Mordecai Richler page? My claim is that Lance made a threat to wholesale delete a section of the article, attempting to hold us hostage to accomplish a goal of his (which I sympathize with though I have not said so), and then he posted to the Talk page the complete text of a copyrighted magazine article and reverted it several times when an editor and I removed it. I think he is relatively new, and hope that a word or two may have a calming effect. Hu 00:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't exactly say I have an interest in the topic, in fact it's about as far outside my areas of expertise as you could get! I only edited the page once, to recategorise it after a decision at CFD. Looks like things have calmed down now, and Bearcat has done a good job. Let me know if you think anything more still needs doing, or if trouble flares up again. the wub "?!" 15:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concerned

Please see: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics, and User talk:ChrisGriswold. Looking for advice/suggestions. - jc37 22:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Munich

Would you be interested in helping out atWikiProject Munich? And you don't have to know anything about Munich. Maybe you could help out on bringing Munich-related articles up to Wikipedia Policies and guidlines standards or maybe another area where you could help improve Munich-related articles. Kingjeff 22:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian air marshals

Greetings. I noticed that you exercised your admin rights to deem that my CfR nomination had reached community consensus. It has yet to be renamed. Is this normal? Greenshed 22:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oops sorry, I was doing this myself and forgot to finish it off. Thanks for reminding me! the wub "?!" 22:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Playboy Models

I do not understand your category removal for Template:Cyber Girl of the Year, but you seem to be citing a policy from CFD that I can not find. It seems from the note AWB that this may have been a bot edit. I am not sure if the bot is using correct logic here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs).

I was not referring to a particular policy, but to a WP:CFD discussion, specifically the one found at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 November 14#Category:Playboy models. And no AWB is not a bot, just a piece of software that speeds up making certain edits, every edit is checked by me before being made. the wub "?!" 18:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Rail transport timelines category rename

Where was the discussion? Those categories are on my watchlist, but I didn't see anything posted to any of the affected categories. Thanks. Slambo (Speak) 18:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The category was nominated and tagged on November 19 by User:Tim!. The discussion is located at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 November 19#Category:Timeline of rail transport. the wub "?!" 18:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, just found it from a different link. I must've missed putting the root category on my watchlist. The new cat is on my watchlist now. B-) Slambo (Speak) 18:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clerk for Requests for Checkuser

Hey The wub,

I am messaging you to ask whether you would be interested in reassuming your role as a Request for Checkuser clerk. Currently, the clerk duties are being shared among three experienced clerks, and we have added two new clerks, who are currently in the learning stage. We are currently experiencing backlogs and long waiting times for some actions to occur.

As you are currently listed under "inactive" on our clerk roster, we're asking that if you are willing to resume these clerk activities, please leave a message on my user talk page ^{(quick link)}. A number of things have changed, so we reccommend re-reading Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Guide. The guide is currently being rewritten, but the new and updated version should be available by 00:00 December 12, 2006 (UTC) at the latest.

If you aren't interested in being a checkuser clerk any longer, we accept your decision and thank you for your service; it would be greatly appreciated if you'd leave me a note that you're no longer interested. If you would like to resume your role in the future, but can't do so now, please mention so on my talk page, and I'll note this on our clerk register.

Thanks for your cooperation,

Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]}, Head Clerk, for Essjay (talk), 05:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] E. Normus Category

You removed Category:Fictional hero from E. Normus Johnson. I your editorial note does not make it clear to me why. Please respond to my talk page. TonyTheTiger 00:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment

As an editor of the article "Jhonen Vasquez", you are invited to a Request for Comment (as suggested by Admin Luna Santin). Please see: Talk:Jhonen Vasquez#Request for Comment: Book format. -- Tenebrae 04:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Hi there! I was wondering why you considered the CFD on Category:Episodic games to have no consensus, considering there were no objections after several weeks and the one comment said "I have no particular comment, though, on whether or not the category is useful. I'm just explaining what the category is presumably referring to." Sorry to bother you with this but I'm curious after your reasoning. Yours, (Radiant) 14:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

From your nomination statement I wasn't sure whether you had understood the concept of Episodic games correctly, and you didn't reply to Dugwiki's clarification. Normally I don't have a problem with discussions that don't have much input but clearly aren't controversial (e.g. your later nomination of Category:Romance games and others). But in this case when there was a possible misunderstanding I thought it best to not delete. I probably should have made my rationale clearer when closing, but was a bit rushed trying to clear the CfD backlog we have had recently. the wub "?!" 14:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for explaining. It's good to see the backlog shrinking so swiftly. I suppose I might renominate the cat at some point for future discussion, but it's not an issue I feel strongly about. (Radiant) 15:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monifieth High School

What have you done to this page? i read ure explanation etc but I still don't understand what you've gone u don't SEEM to have done anything--172.201.95.101 20:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You mean this? I just moved it from Category:High schools in Scotland to Category:Secondary schools in Scotland since it was decided at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 4#Category:High schools in Scotland. Categories appear at the bottom of the page. the wub "?!" 20:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spam

Why did you revert the db-spam tag I put on this page? Its a personal advertisement for his web site Islamcomic.org--CltFn 13:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Because it's his user page. Though I may dislike the site he links to, there's no problem with him having it there. Besides, not his entire page is spam. the wub "?!" 13:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:UW

Hi,

You have put yourself as interested in helping out at WikiProject on user warnings. We are now at a stage where we are creating the new templates and are wondering if you are still interested? If so please visit the overview page and choose a warning type you wish to work on. There is a base template available here, which you can copy and use to get you started. Have a look through the redirects and see what old templates are affected and incorporate them into the the new system. Anyway, any questions please don't hesitate to give me a shout. Regards Khukri ^{(talk . contribs)} 09:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New day transclude for WP:CFD

Hi there ... for the past few months I've been doing the new day transclude at WP:CFD. This isn't a big deal, since midnight UTC happens around 4pm my time. However, as of tomorrow morning I'm leaving on a trip for a couple of weeks, expect to be back on the 30th. I'll probably still be around from time to time, they have the internet, even in Denver ... but I don't think I'll be able to do the new date thing again until I return. And I thought I'd let a few people know in advance, so people aren't waiting around for me to do it, or wondering why I stopped. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 00:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Veteran categories

You have removed the veteran category from G>W. Bush and Larry Craig, which makes sense, since the were never in theater. But how do you justify removing it from Eisenhower? Could you please cite what standard you are following? Thanks. Edison 13:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The categories have been disbanded, see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 8#Category:American Veteran Politicians and Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 9#American veteran politicians. the wub "?!" 13:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you please cite that in the edit summaries, because otherwise people (like me) will just think it is vandalism. I immediately reverted your Eisenhower edit, so maybe you could cite the CfD and re-relete it. Thanks. Edison 13:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The abortion debate

Hi. I knew I was missing something when I relisted the abortion categories for renaming. The tags that you removed from those pages as a result of the withdrawn nomination were actually replacements I put up for the new discussion. Could you please put them back, or can I do that myself? Sorry for the trouble I'm causing you. Xiner 14:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! Sorry, I'll put them back. the wub "?!" 14:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

lol, sorry, it's my fault. Thanks! Xiner 15:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC) P.S. That "?!" looks more appropriate by the minute.

[edit] Mornington Cresent

An experienced type like yourself should know not to vandalise the Mornington Cresent page. I just think it's just a shame there is no way to easily get people who do such things banned. Mrjeff 13:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Having your facts right might help, the only edit I made to Mornington Crescent recently (and as far as I can remember, ever) was this, a simple change of category as discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 12#Category:I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue. the wub "?!" 19:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Many, many apologises. I was tired, and should have checked the history log more carefully. Mrjeff 22:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

Could you take a look at the entry for Napa Chic. A user named Carlton keeps wanting to delete it. I think he is just being weird about it. All very odd, but we need a rational administrator to intercede. Thanks!!Marylandwizard 22:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Commented on the AfD. the wub "?!" 20:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Roman Catholic bishops in California

Hello. I think that you made a mistake by merging this category with American Roman Catholic bishops. Catholic bishops are organized by region. At least keep the list of bishops from California and make it a subcategory of American Catholic bishops so that readers can still get the California list.

I've added my comments to this discussion comments to this discussion.

Bishops organize themselves into regions, such as California, Illinois, and Ohio, and each region has a long history. By merging Catholic Bishops in California into a larger category of Catholic Bishops in America, you removed this. Now readers need to fish through Catholic Bishops in America which could have hundreds of entries of people from all over the country going back over 200 years. That's not very useful.

These decisions are made quickly on Wikipedia with a quick discussion of the form, not the content. For example I didn't read any discussion about the content of how bishops are organized. See list of the Roman Catholic dioceses of the United States for regions within the United States. This type of research should have been a part of making the decision.

I'd like to see this category restored or at least made a subcategory under American Catholic Bishops.

Thanks for reading.

Craig.borchardt 23 December 2006

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[edit] Help with my Userpage

Hi there!

I am relatively new to Wikipedia, and I am starting to edit My Userpage. I was browsing through userpages to try to find some good material to add to mine, (such as userboxes - I just found out about "the great userbox war") and I found your page. I really liked the design of your page (the "bubbles"), and tried to copy it over to my userpage, but it didn't work the way i wanted. I am asking you because (1) it's on your page, and (2) you're an admin. How can I incorporate that design into my userpage, complete with the thing at the top (with my name and a few little icons)?

Thanks,

Iamzork 01:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, glad you like my userpage! The code for the header is in a subpage - User:The wub/uptop. You can either

• copy the code from there directly onto your user page
• or copy it to a subpage e.g. User:Iamzork/uptop and then transclude it by putting {{User:Iamzork/uptop}} on your user page

and then make changes as you like. Experiment, and if you need any more help then just ask. I'll be interested to see what you come up with :-) the wub "?!" 22:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infantry Cat

The Category change you made to the UDR page {infantry regiments} doesn't work. Can you review please. Cheers Weggie 19:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

It's fixed now. I should probably create the category page before putting it on 157 pages next time. the wub "?!" 19:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] recognition

for your personal glorification: Image:UpsidedownBarnstar.png --popefauvexxiii 09:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Aw, thanks! the wub "?!" 09:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Nintendude

Just for my own future reference, I take it from your move that it is customary to tack on new requests for CU onto the old namespace rather than start a second request page as is done with AfD's? This is my first multiple checkuser so it would be nice to know the correct protocol going forward. Thanks!--Isotope23 18:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's how we tend to do it, and then use noinclude trickery to hide the old cases from the main page. This way we can keep related cases nicely together for future reference. Don't worry about making mistakes though, it took me a while to get my head around it (being so used to AfD), and I'm a clerk! the wub "?!" 18:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Sneaky... Makes sense though, particularly in the case of repeat offenders. Thanks for the info... with what appears to be my impending adminship I'd like to make sure I know how this works in case I tell another editor to open a checkuser request based on an AN/I report.--Isotope23 18:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, you up for adminship? *saunters over to RfA* the wub "?!" 18:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:PTA disbands.png)

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Yeah, squish it. Looks like someone uploaded a better version. the wub "?!" 20:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

FYI, 3 more {{orfud}}s:

• Image:Simpsons4f11.jpg
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The same. the wub "?!" 02:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Snark

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You're right, a few of those southern ones are rather superfluous, are they not? --Cyde Weys 17:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I wondered if anyone would spot that edit summary. Listing those moves took AGES! the wub "?!" 18:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] del sort

I see you're part of the Deletion Sorting project. Could you have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting#new list needed? It's pretty slow over there and I don't know if I'm even asking in the right place. — coelacan talk — 11:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! — coelacan talk — 18:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 19:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Which tempate ...

... did you use to place this notice? [7]

It looks like a rather useful template, but I can't find it in the lists of templates. -BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 23:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

It was based on {{cfdnotice}}, but I expanded it and adjusted the wording to fit the situation. It might be useful quite often, so if you want to make a separate template out of it then go ahead. the wub "?!" 23:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pages redirecting to themselves

I think you might have been trying to rename something, but it didn't really work. There's a whole load of pages now that just redirect to themselves in infinite loops, for example Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 November 2 – Qxz 15:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh nuts, I thought that I'd fixed that problem. Anyway I dug through my contributions and think I've fixed any that went wrong. the wub "?!" 15:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks – Qxz 17:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD British royal consorts

Hi, wub, I see the discussion has been resolved, but I'm incapable of renaming categories - could you please? Cheers – DBD 20:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, by action, I mean the deletion of Category:British queen consorts, Category:English queen consorts and Category:Scottish queen consorts – DBD 21:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Okey-dokey. Thanks for emptying them. the wub "?!" 22:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No probs - I've done the same for Category:Anglo-Saxon queen consorts (i.e. to Category:Anglo-Saxon royal consorts) - hope that's alright... So can the former of those be deleted too? Cheers – DBD 07:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

It certainly can. the wub "?!" 08:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grand renaming ...

Thanks for taking care of adding all those redirects. I plan to build template files for February sometime soon. -- 15:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Warhammer rulebook.gif)

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[edit] Auckland

Why did you attempt to delete the largest city cat? MadMaxDog 09:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Read the edit summary. the wub "?!" 09:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

My bad, but I did go to the actual category summary page, and there, it only said that it was going to be renamed. Also, I consider the category itself a reasonable thing, and would have voted for keeping it had I been aware of the deletion. MadMaxDog 10:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] re: Category:Lists of Marvel Comics superhero teams

Would it be permissible to rename the cat as indicated as an option during the CfD or should that be put back up as a new CfD?

Thanks... — J Greb 01:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

To Category:Lists of Marvel Comics characters by organisation? That seems sensible, but another CfD might be worthwhile just to check no one has any problems with it. the wub "?!" 11:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] iw link

Hello. I noticed that you removed an iw language link at the same time that you were removing a category in this edit. I don't know the language and did not know if it was intentional, so I just wanted to drop you a line here. If this was intentional then I'm sorry to have bothered you. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No that was a mistake, not sure how it happened. I have restored the link, thanks for letting me know. the wub "?!" 11:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

You may have something that you need to look into further, please. From your edit history, it looks like at least the next few edits after that one [8] [9] [10] [11] did the same thing. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 12:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm this appears to be a bug in AWB, it just happened again today (fortunately I was looking out for it). I did upgrade yesterday and start using a new plugin, so I'll report it. the wub "?!" 13:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Great, thank you for taking this with the spirit in which it was intended. I'm glad that I was able to give you the heads up during the run to help you catch it today. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 14:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Simpsons WikiProject

Hi, there has recently been some contention over the isse of whether Simpsons character pages need "episodes featuring" lists and it's been decided that the issue will be put to a vote. As a member of the WikiProject, your opinion on the matter would be appreciated. Join the discussion here. Thanks, Scorpion 05:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plato

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction
discussion
Please, have a look on "Plato".
Martin Segers (Belgium)
Tsi43318 07:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Say what now? the wub "?!" 14:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] socks

Thanks for fixing this [Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/User:Greier]. Judging by Greier's background, don't you think this deserves a checkuser? I think it was rejected due to my mistake. Miskin 17:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

No, Jpgordon just said a checkuser was unnecessary given the evidence you presented i.e. it is obvious these are puppets. Declining to run a check based on lack of evidence is a different matter. I will block them now. the wub "?!" 17:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I see now. I have no prior experience in this matter, thank you for the explanation. Miskin 14:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh btw, he just created another sockpuppet of himself in User:!blardi. Is he consider formally banned? I'd like to enforce WP:BAN against him by reverting his edits. Miskin 15:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I think something is going wrong considering the Justinian article. People are frustratingly disagreeing on how to proceed. Would you be so kind as to take a look at it?' La Belle Aude 19:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I would also like to bring up User:La Belle Aude as Greier's newest sock. He has apparently been watching my contribution list and claims that he doesn't even know how to make a revert yet. Miskin 20:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Please, be so kind as to tell me what I did wrong. I'm new to this, I've been editing away for a day now, but apparently, in spite of reading up on policy to avoid greenhorn mistakes, I have already enraged you. I have not reverted anything Greier has done, have I? And by the way, I'm a she. -- La Belle Aude 21:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Following this and an e-mail from Iblardi I have asked Jpgordon to consider running the Checkuser anyway, to clear things up. I would encourage all parties to take a break from the Justinian article for a while, there are plenty of other things to do around here. If the edit-warring continues I will not hesitate to protect. the wub "?!" 21:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Also Miskin please note that User:Stbalbach has been on Wikipedia since 2004, and is undoubtedly a user in good standing. As such he is clearly able to restore edits, as he is taking responsibility for them. the wub "?!" 22:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I was never suspecting Stbalbach, he thought I was removing content out of the blue until I explained myself to him. In any case, despite what CheckUser shows, I cannot be convinced that La Belle Aude, Mursili, Iblardi are not the socks of the same person. Suddenly three editors arrive, one after the other, and start edit-warring over the most insignificant edit in the world. Personally I feel that this guy overestimates his own potential by thinking that he can fool people like that. He claims that he doesn't even know how to make reverts [12] and suddenly after scanning my contribution list he appears in wub's talk page, knowing everything about CheckUser, wp:ban etc. Look how much he insists on restoring one sentence that I don't even remember what it was about [13][14][15]. Stbalbach advised him as Mursili that he shouldn't be a red user and have a good reputation so he came back with new blue user. How come those people who were so concerned over that line in Justinian were never there at the same time? Now I'm giving him ideas, you'll see that next time he'll try to operate more socks concurrently, thinking he can outsmart us. He's never going to admit being sockpuppet, he never did in the past, one time he tried to convince that he was the brother of someone who was banned. He'll always try to blame me of course, like that time when he started an RFC against me. I'll try to get the diffs although it was deleted. By now he's probably sending emails at admins, telling them about how innocent and victimised he has been. Miskin 22:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh right, I just discovered another remarkable anecdote, La Belle Aude claims to be from the Netherlands [16], just like user Iblardi had claimed [17] - all by mere coincidence of course. Suddenly he had a sex change, thinking for some reason that he'd have more chances to fool us as a female. He obviously doesn't intend to stop sockpuppeting and disrupting wikipedia, hence why I've been enforcing the reversion of his edits. Miskin 23:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Here are some diffs:

• Greier's failed attempt to outsmart wikipedia [18] (compare to the show he puts on here)
• Greier's failed attempt to RFC me Special:Undelete/Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Miskin (compare to the emails Iblardi sent)

Miskin 23:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

the wub, thanks a lot for resolving this matter. Iblardi 14:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Wub you're making a mistake. Greier has prior history of editing with proxies [19], so this is by no means an evidence. This conversation shouldn't have taken place via emails but in wikipedia. It should have been open to all wikipedians, especially the editors who have had contacts with this user before. And what about "La belle aude" who mysteriously disappeared. No answer was ever given. Was there a CheckUser? What were the results? Miskin 17:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Would you be so kind as to keep me out of this, Miskin? I've replied to your email, you can run any kind of check on it you like. You make me feel very unwelcome on Wikipedia. I would prefer you'd answer my greenhorn-questions instead of ignoring my queries and start accusing me blindly of things I hitherto didn't even knew existed.

The Wub, I'll leave that page alone for a while and I'll start editing some other stuff, even though Justinian is a subject I feel most comfortable about. There is indeed plenty to do here for medievalists. La Belle Aude 10:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military Veterans

Greetings,

Regarding the below discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_February_2#Military_veterans

First, I believe this discussion should be re-opened for debate, as affected articles were NOT informed of the debate (and therefore were excluded from either voting or presenting an alternate view).

Second, I believe this is a bad nomination because it sacrifices content for alleged consistency, when in fact there IS no consistency. Consider:

1. "Veteran": In particular, most people who participate in a war (war veterans) do NOT consider it to be a career. Yes, part of the HONOR that comes with being a VETERAN is that one survived danger in an effort to defend their nation. Yes, the issue is about being a survivor. And in particular for aged veterans, surviving old age as well. For example, do we say Antonio Pierro was the last surviving military personnel of the Meuse-Argonne offensive? I think not.

2. References to specific wars: I could understand using 'military personnel' to refer to the category of all persons who ever served in the military (even though I disdain the term, as it blanches individuals of identity and the idea of serving of any value other than being a peon or robot). But for a specific category such as "American Veterans of WWI", isn't the category already linked to a specific idea and time period, one that cannot be associated with a career as a personnel of WWI.

3. Purposes of remembrance: Part of the purpose of remembering veterans is to remember their sacrifice and committment, and also to remember that war is generally a bad thing, and should be limited to a last resort scenario. "Military personnel" blanches the category of any meaning. Human resources personnel may be hired or fired with the rise and fall of the stock market, nothing personal. Do we remember the 'last surviving human resources personnel of the office of Dean Witter, 1985'? Everyone's been fired since then! NO. I think not.

The bottom line: the renaming of the categories was done in BAD FAITH since the affected parties were NOT informed of the debate.→ R Young {^yakł_talk} 07:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

<sigh>What is it about the phrase "bad faith" that makes people throw it around so needlessly, even resorting to ALL CAPS? The affected parties were informed of the debate by tagging the category pages, as is standard practice for category renaming debates. Tagging every single article contained within those categories is completely impractical. Furthermore the rename was discussed by WikiProject Military history before even being proposed at CfD.

"Part of the purpose of remembering veterans is to remember their sacrifice and committment" From my perspective it seems you want to use these categories to espouse a point of view, which is against policy. the wub "?!" 12:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Discussion

I somehow missed the discussion where you proposed the name change of Category:Companies based in the Silicon Valley. --evrik ^(talk) 14:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, the link went screwy. It was proposed (not by me) on January 22 for speedy renaming. There were no objections after 48 hours so the rename went ahead. the wub "?!" 14:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted category

Hello,

Could you post the last version of the 'Category Neoconseratives' listing the individuals the category named in my user space, so they can be verfied and merged into another article as suggested?

Please put it in my sandbox.

Thanks - FaAfA 03:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. the wub "?!" 11:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mal-alignment

Hi! You closed this but I noticed the bottom is well out of the div or span block or whatever. Also note the category page is still showing the Cfd link. Can I clean that out now, or is there some special tagging (Talk page?) or annotation that needs made. Best regards // FrankB 07:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

There was another div in one of the fancy linking templates that messed it up. I've sorted that now. As for the category page I just missed that the target was tagged as well, and have removed it. the wub "?!" 13:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disagreement over closing of CfD on Category:Dutch world champions in sports as 'delete'

You closed that with a consensus determination of "delete", and I'm strongly curious as to why, since nominator and 50% of respondents supported rename, and stated reasons for this, while the other 50% of respondents supported merge, not delete, while nominator already pointed out that merge was moot, rendering their comments effectively meaningless. I believe this category should be restored, since there was certainly no consensus to delete, as Category:Dutch world champions in sport (no -s) — or at the original name and have it returned to CfD for further discussion, since there was not really any consensus to rename it either (in fact I would argue against the rename; regardless I'm arguing much more strongly against the deletion, which doesn't seem to actually be supported). I for one found the category sensible and was actually using it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 03:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

In the interim, could I please have a copy of the category showing the categorized individuals as it was before deletion, at User:SMcCandlish/Dutch Temp (or something else, as long as I know where it is :) ? It strikes me as likely that because this was a subcat of Dutch sportspeople, that articles from which the champions cat was removed may not have been updated to use Dutch sportpeople instead, and are thus uncategorized or incompletely categorized. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 03:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

CfD is not a vote, and I believe this case was an acceptable use of 'closer discretion'. I basically did close it as merge for the reasons given by Otto4711 and in my closing statement. However all the member articles were in other appropriate subcategories of Category:Dutch sportspeople, so from a purely practical standpoint there was no reason to move all the articles into the top category, only to have to remove them all again later.

I have listed the articles that were removed from the category at User:SMcCandlish/Dutch Temp as requested. If you still feel my actions were inappropriate, you can bring it up at deletion review. the wub "?!" 19:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks; will make sure the articles are all catted right. DR: Eh. I'm not saying you abused admin power, I'm just disagreeing with your logic. Given the putsch to keep-and-rename and the rationale for those !votes, I think a simpler and more consensus-y thing to do would have been to remove any redundant cat.'s from the articles in question like Category:Dutch sportspeople, the same way one would remove Category:British sportspeople from an article that already had Category:Scottish sportspeople or Category:English sportspeople. I don't see any rationale for deleting the category itself, since it identified topics by significant (and non-overcategorization) facts. Not something really worth arguing about very much, since it's actually a larger issue of whether such world champ. categories should or shouldn't exist at all, which would be a larger topic for CfD. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 23:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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